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| map-marker Canmore, Alberta

I was suppose to receive my item last year in June and it never arrived $115.00 and no refund ! I don’t recommend ordering any products from this company EVER!!

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SpaCap - I was suppose to receive my item last year in June and it never arrived $115.00...

No response from company regarding my order that was never received $115.00 .. no refund offered or any feedback whatsoever..

I do not recommend this company and I am definitely a pissed consumer and would really appreciate a refund or the product that I ordered ! Or any response would be greatly appreciated

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User's recommendation: Never order anything from this scamming company

Anonymous

Excellent product

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SpaCap - Excellent product

I just received our second Spa cap replacing our first one that lasted 8 years! This is a well made cover with high quality materials custom made to your spa. The company is easy to work with and very responsive, they remembered us from 8 years ago.

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  • Product and service
Reason of review:
Good quality
Anonymous

Bottom of cover gets slimy

Within a month after I got my SpaCap cover, the bottom of the cover was getting very slimy. I called to ask the owner to see whether there was a solution.

He said I needed to make sure the filter cycle was on for at least 2 hours twice a day. At that point I couldn't check my settings but the next time I could, I verified that the settings were correct and since I still had slime I called him back. He reiterated that that was the only solution so I tried to do one better: I set the filter cycle for 3 hours twice a day and I left the temperature on all the time, even when I was not there. A month later when I was there again, there was still slime so I called once again and said I was very disappointed in the product and wanted to return the cover.

He said that that was not possible, that all I could do was to return it and try to fight it out with my credit card company.

I checked and my credit card company might have fought on my behalf for 120 days but the guy had strung me out for so long that it was past the 120 days. At this point I think I am out the total cost of the product since I will have to replace it with a new cover.

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Anonymous
map-marker Lynden, Washington

Horrible product - horrible company

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I have had 3 or these and now I'm done. As others have said, you can't get these people on the phone or e-mail without a lot of effort.

I think this is a husband/wife team as you alway get the same gruff answers; it's always my fault it fails. The inner heavy vinyl turns brittle with exposure to cold weather and allows water to fill the bladders. The first time after 2 years, it was due to my using chlorine to sanitize and they suggested copper based Blue, which I did. The second time was after 1 year and due to using shock after each use.

The third time, I declined their offer to make a new SpaCap for full price (they used to do a $300 rebuild if I sent them the old Sunbrella cover). I will not buy a third and urge you all not to buy a first.

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  • Product quality
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Reason of review:
Bad quality
2 comments
Andras Kok

I have had the same experience with this company. Gruff and unhelpful on the phone or emails.

Guest

I agree sadly...

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Anonymous
map-marker San Antonio, Texas

Big Problems

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We purchased a spa cap for a swim spa. The first year we were in a drought, the next year it rained like crazy.

It filled with water and took us a long time and a lot of effort to find the drain hole and position it to drain. The cap weighs a lot empty but you get it full of 10 gallons of water and it is impossible to handle. Once we got it drained, we followed the instructions regarding water level etc.

Rained again and back to square one. We finally realized that we should water-proof the darn thing.

If the customer service had been any good they would have told us this in the beginning. This guy doesn't know you after he gets your money. We wish we would have read the complaints before we gave him our money. I e-mailed him twice in the middle of this disaster and know response.

I would be surprised if he is still in business.

Main point - water-proof the darn thing and it could be good.

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Loss:
$1400
Cons:
  • Warranty
  • Price
  • Customer service
Reason of review:
Poor customer service

Preferred solution: Full refund

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Andras Kok

We had a similar experience. The product filled with water but not from the inflation ports.

We tried to drain it during the summer but with all the bladders deflated there was no water that came out.

This led us to conclude that the water is between the sunbrella cover and the internal bladders with no way to drain it. It now weighs too much to use.

Amarri Qqv
map-marker Chagrin Falls, Ohio

Spa Cap owner is the problem

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Great Product, but when it fails do not expect much of a "warranty". My second Cap from them failed after 2 years.

The owner said that my kids must have jumped on it!! Then when I explained to him that this was not possible and sent him pictures of the tub to be covered he said the problem was my spa was too different. We agreed to a "repair" price and I asked for some additional changes to the cover. What arrived was the exact same cover I had the first time.

So becareful as he is very crafty on doing the minimum to cheat you. Also when you place and order and he tells you 3-4 weeks, expect it to be 3-4 months. I think I will start my own spa cap company and just sell to all of his P'Oed customers.

What a shame because the product is intelligent in its design and really can work. Just don't expect it to last more than 2 years and the owner to lie to you about warranty and delivery.

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Loss:
$2500
Cons:
  • Warranty
  • Customer service
Reason of review:
Poor customer service

Preferred solution: I want the cover re-made with the changes I requested in multiple phone calls, emails and diagrams sent

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Guest

Thanks to PayPal I got my money back. If you dare take a chance on this product document all conversations with this guy and be ready to ask PayPal to help you get your money back

Ludy Coq
map-marker San Jose, California

Don't waste your money on a SPA CAP!

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Crappiest cover ever; does NOT outlast the others, the membrane fails and it fills with water, the customer service

S U C K S (supposedly I was speaking with the owner.... 'Jeff' via chat), they have no suggestions other than to drain it and maybe put one of those solar bubble covers on it before the water-logged air bag of theirs..... And it stinks! It is very mildewy smelling and takes away the enjoyment of tubbing. I'm going back to a traditional cover now that they make them tapered. Do NOT spend your money here; it is all custom and wayyyyy more expensive for the same duration warranty and snotty service to boot. Why bother?

See many reviews here:

http://www.whatsthebest-hottub.com/.../topic,15530.0.html

and they have a BBB rating of 'F'

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Loss:
$650
Cons:
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  • Price
  • Product quality
Reason of review:
Bad quality

Preferred solution: Let the company propose a solution

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Andras Kok

we had a very similar experience with the product and customer service.

Anonymous
map-marker Kapaa, Hawaii

Beware of Spa Cap Owner

I bought a spa cap and have actually not been disappointed with the cover. When I ordered it I was accidentally charged for a feature I didn't get.

Simple enough, no big deal so I call them back to get a $95 credit for their mistake. I have been calling for 9 months just trying to get the refund due to me but the owner Jeff just ignores my polite requests. His mom Marlis helps him run the business by answering the phones and taking orders but she appears to be powerless to get her son to behave even remotely like an honest business person. He is really foolish because I would have ordered several other covers for the rentals I manage but can't allow myself when he won't even send me the money that he overcharged me.

The way it all has played out, I wonder if he intentionally charges for things he does not provide and then just ignores his customers complaints. Spa Cap: no integrity.

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Loss:
$95
Reason of review:
Poor customer service

Preferred solution: Price reduction

Anonymous
map-marker Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

SpaCap

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I purchased a SPA cap on 4-6-10 for $695.

After a couple of years the bottom and top of cap was filling with water.

I contacted Spa Cap Marlys Slinger. She was nice person and explained to me that I was not using the recommended water treatment in the Jacuzzi.

I shipped the Spa Cap back to the manufacturer in May 2012.

They replaced the bottom bladder. I had to pay $250.

I purchased the non chlorine water treatment products (Clarity Water Minerals) that Spa Cap recommends.

As of July 2014 I must drain about five gallons of water per week from the bottom bladder. Sometimes there is some water in the top bladder.

I believe that the coated fabric does not hold up when it is in constant contact with the water. It becomes bridle and cracks allowing water into the bottom bladder. I recently purchased a solar pool cover to lay on the Jacuzzi water surface. I then placed the spa cover on top of the solar pool cover. Hopefully this will prevent the spa water from entering the spa cap. Over all after spending about $1000 using the spa cover has been a negative experience. I need to spend more time maintaining the spa and cover and refilling with water then the time I spend in the spa.

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Anonymous
map-marker New York, New York

Spacap Review from New York City, New York

I bought a spacap so I wouldn't have a waterlogged cover. I spent $850 for this.

In less than a year, I found water in the the bottom chamber. When I called I was told I was only suppose to use 1/3 of the chemicals recommended. I was never told this. The bottom of the cover needed to be replaced.

They told me it would cost $150 and they would pay for the the return shipping of $60.00. It was returned and was too small and did not fit. I had to return it again to be resized. I was told the shipping would be refundeded.

This never happened. After several phone calls and emails I gave up. After 8 months of using 1/3 of the chemicals the cover is dry rotting again.

Stay Away From this Company!!!!! This is a piece of junk.

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Anonymous
map-marker Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

Spa Cap Performance sub par

I purchased the Spa Cap cover in April 2010for $700.Replaced the bladders May 2012 for $250 due to cracking vinyl bladder. Since then I have been using only Crystal Clean non clorine potassium oxidizer.

It works well to keep the water clear. I have the top and bottom cover bladders inflated completely. About 1 gallon per month must be drained from both top and bottom inside the bladder.

I must scrub a dark ring stain from the bladder every couple of months. Sorry to say that I am not to happy about the performance of the Spa Cap.

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Loss:
$950
Marzetta Zek
map-marker Doylestown, Pennsylvania

Spacap is a bust! Not the best!

I purchased a spa cap a year and a half ago, totally a mess, valves leak, got a skin infection from the minerals they recommend and state are required, so swiched to bromine. I was getting skin infections from their recommendations!

To prevent skin infections you have to use chemicals! This ruins a spa cap. So now I have a $1800 worthless spa cover and had to go to a dermatologist. I was treated with antibiotics and steroids.

Not worth it! I have been thinking about getting a lawyer because they clearly state that you must use minerals!!! How can you produce a product that can not withstand chemicals in your hot tub? It is dangerous and can cause harm by recommending not to use chemicals in your spa?

I can't believe we bought into this scam. Live and learn! Don't buy this without checking this out! They will not honor their warranty if you use chemicals!

If you use chemicals it cracks the underneath and takes on water and the valves fall off!!! Please don't make the same mistake!

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Loss:
$1800
Anonymous
map-marker Mclean, Virginia

SpaCap piece of ***

Purchased SpaCap hoping it would outlast the conventional foam cover, well guest what it didn't hold air after 11 months. I called company to honor warranty and still have not been able to get a return phone call.

Not sure how I ordered as no one seems to answer the phone. Please don't waste your money on this piece of *** cover. It is simple rain out weighs air. After calling for 4 months I gave up and ordered a new cover.

Customer service sucks at the company.

Stay away, I mean stay away. Funny the valves just pulled away from the fine marine grade vinyl.

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Loss:
$800
DerrickBurchett B
map-marker Mexico, Capital District

Spa Cap complaint read it all

Like many I needed a new hot tub lid. I have had my experiance with the foam lids over the years, looked to see if anyone had something better.

I found spa cap. It looked good, made sense and didnt cost much more than a good foam lid, so I gave it a try. Well I have had it going on 3 years now, and it is shot. The first year was fine.

It performed as advertised, had to adjust the air a few times, but nothing much than standard maintenance, of something that is filled with air like that. After the first winter was when everything went downhill. They talk about the seal around the hot tube, ya right, mine still seapted steam out the back side even though I had pulled tight, and froze itself to the hot tub, so I could only roll it off one direction and let it hang there. In the spring I was noticing that I had to fill it with air more and more frequently.

The cap developed holes where it bent the most from rolling the hot tube cover on and off. It was still under warrenty then, and they fixed it, and it worked fine for a while, until it wen through another winter and all the patches came off. So spring comes along again and the rain, and witht he hot tub lid loosing air faster and the temperature changes, it would not stay inflated enough to roll the water off the lid, no biggy, except the fabric no longer repelled water, and started to soak through and hold itself in the lid, until I roled the lid off and removed the excess water and allow the rest in the lid to evaporate out. Thats right, the lid that isnt supposed to absorb water does!

So now that it is loosing air again and absorbing water, and out of warranty, I figured I would do the patches myself and coat the lid with a water repellant to help bead the water off again. Worked for like 10 months, patches are comeing off again, the lid is absobing water again. It has been raining a lot at home with big temperture swings, and the lid filled up with water, by the time it stopped raining and got the extra water off. The lid absorbed so much water, that I could not get it back on.

3 years and this thing is shot, I have had foam lids last twice as long and cost have as much. I followed their instructions, it just didnt hold up to the hype. They will most likely say that I dont have the proper amount of air in it. Well lets talk about that, it is filled with air, that expands and contracts with temperature, so when you fill it in the summer, you have to fill it, so when it heats up from the hot tub and then from the sun, it is not going to have too much air in, and if you are still haveing cool nights, it might cool down enough to not repel the rain, if it rains that night, it will push down the lid and pool, same goes for in the winter.

I have had to fill it so often in 3 years, that the fill plugs have all broken off. It is great for the first year, but after that, it becomes a maintenance hog. I get in my hot tub just about every night, and it couldn't hold up. This would be could for some that has average temperatures, but not for anyone that uses their hot tub a lot and lives where the temperature can swing greatly.

Just like an innertube, it will loose air, and the temperature swing will make it worse. They also say not to run the chemicals to high as it can eat the material, well I run mine with little to no chemical, just enough chlorine to keep the bacteria at bay, and only put it in before we got in the hot tub, so it had time to dissipate, before I put the lid back on. So the holes in the lid are from chracking from the bending, not the chemicals eating it.

I also email them to let them know how dissapointed I am with the product, and no one has yet to contact me. $550 wasted and so much headach.

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jeffkane
map-marker Sacramento, California

DON'T BUY A SPA CAP HOT TUB COVER

Spa covers of thick rigid foam gradually get waterlogged and cave in, like mine did. So when I saw an ad for an innovative design at SpaCap.com, I got interested. The Spa Cap is essentially a large air bladder enclosed in a couple of layers of heavy-duty marine vinyl, so it sounds like a promising product.

It is not. Its insulation qualities are close to nil, and worse, the company's got the worst customer service this side of Attila the Hun.

I bought a Spa Cap, and after watching the company's online instructional video, I installed the cover appropriately. From that day, our electric bill skyrocketed. During the previous year, when we used a foam cover, our electric bill averaged $100 per month. With the SpaCap in place, our first month bill was $177, the second was $362, and the third, $571!

Of course, I turned off the tub and phoned SpaCap. I left several messages and then e-mails, and never got a response. I finally reached a woman in SpaCap's office, having possibly caught her off guard. She listened to me and asked me to send them a photo of the installation. I did that the same day, waited a week, and then began calling and e-mailing once again. Finally I reached the same woman. She told me the company's president had concluded I hadn't tacked the cover down with enough fasteners, and he'd already shipped me more fasteners. I'm glad I didn't wait by my mailbox.

I returned the cover to SpaCap, enclosing a request for a refund under the warranty, which covers workmanship and materials for three years. Since it didn't insulate worth a fig, it wasn't a genuine spa cover, so was completely defective. As you might guess, I heard nothing further from them.

If you go to SpaCap's website, a subpage, "R-Factor Testing Results," offers data on the product's insulation capability. The study, done by Dr. H.F.Poppendiek of Geoscience Ltd. of San Diego, CA, seems to suggest that the SpaCap provides about ten times more insulation capability than a rigid foam cover. But if you read it carefully, it's actually incomprehensible.

So I wrote to Dr. Poppendiek, asking what the story was. He replied that something was radically wrong with the information on SpaCap's website. It was not in conformance, he said, with the technical data Geoscience Ltd. supplied. Dr. Poppendiek wrote, "I'm not sure whether someone at SpaCap doesn't understand the data or whether my findings are being misrepresented."

Why did that not surprise me?

The Better Business Bureau (http://www.bbb.org/western-washington/business-reviews/spas-and-hot-tubs-supplies-and-parts/spacapcom-in-lynden-wa-1302****#ratingdetails) gives SpaCap.com the grade of F, their lowest rating. The BBB says there were 41 complaints filed against the company, which failed to resolve or even respond to a significant number of the complaints.

If you Google "spa cap," you'll find websites such as www.doityourself.com, which feature numerous other extremely negative reviews such as mine.

In sum, SpaCap's product is lousy and may actually be fraudulent, and their customer skills are even worse.

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Guest

I also am skeptical of the negative reviews as I have had my spa cap for 10 years, almost to the day! The cover has seen some severe Upstate New York winters as well as some unusally hot Summers and only now is it time for a replacement.

I went thru 3 foam covers during the 1st few years of owning my spa before going with the Spa Cap. There is NO mentioned on the web of any other cover lasting 10 years!

I just ordered a replacement that took minutes as they still had my original order on file. I didn't have to re-measure, submit anything or even think twice!

Guest

We are on our second Spa Cap, first one lasts 8 years. I don’t understand how these negative comments are the same product or company.

When we replaced our water logged rigid cover with our first spa cap our utilities for our hot tub when down below $50 a month ! Stayed there fir 8 years !

Guest

The covers sound so wonderful!!

-So very glad to see these reports and comments. No!

Guest

Total junk!!!! Mine lasted only 18 months before it started taking on water, maintaining this thing is a pain.

I live in an area with wide temperature swings, super hot during the day so the air expands to the point I have to let some air out, then at night the temp drops 50 degrees, and the cover sags into the hot tub, UGH!

constantly adding and removing air. I hate this thing!

Guest

After recommending this product to many I too have chambers taking on water. While it seems to be made well the fabric tears and the inside rubber has small holes allowing water in. Will not be buying another.

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We have had the same issue with our SpaCap; customer service is HORRIBLE! He is rude and claims our chemicals caused the issue; we don't use chemicals, but an ionizer....then he told us to coat it with a certain rubberized coating, which we did, and it promptly peeled off in millions of teeny pieces into the water.

After $700 and two years of decent coverage and dealing with him for over a year now trying to find a "fix" we are DONE with this company.

Major rip off in my opinion.

Guest

I also got seduced by SpaCaps phoney baloney claims of super insulation and never filling with water. I spent nearly $600.00 for this piece of junk.

About 2 years later the chambers began taking on water. Also, even when new it IS NOT easier to take the spacap cover off versus standard foam covers espcially if there is any wind blowing. Totally bogus product that I was forced to replace after about 2 1/2 years.

The ONLY good thing to come out of it was that I had the sunbrella fabric (GREAT product) that was the outer protective layer remade into a nice cover for my Big Green Egg. Now I wish a company would make a foam cover with sunbrella fabric instead of the typical vinyl that burns up in the sun.

Don't buy a SpaCap!!!

Guest

This has not been my experience. I've had my SpaCap for over 10 years - I've never had a rigid foam cover last this long.

I live in Colorado where UV exposure and wind are both important factors and my SpaCap has performed much better than my previous two vinyl-covered, rigid foam covers.

I also have no complaints about their customer service. My questions have always been answered promptly and pleasantly.

When it becomes necessary, I will replace my SpaCap with another one.

Guest

Yep, I too was tired of the old style covers getting heavy and water logged. Hubby thought he found something great.

HA, whi,e its a nice cover they made, they give u a thin and I mean THIN) 4x4 air pillow to put under the cover for my 7'x7' hot tub. This doesn't insurance,ate at all.

I could see maybe if the pillow would atleast cover the whole top of the water.

I guess if you live in Florida or a warm climate all year round and u just want to keep rain water off it may work for that. Not a happy customer here in Indiana

Guest

I spent almost $800 for a SpaCap and I also had terrible results and no refund. Living in Maine winters, the inside of my hot tub became all iced up because the cover did not fit correctly.

I was in tears with multiple phone calls and never a response. Oh, I did send many photos with NO response. I am angry and out a whole lot of money!! Wow, I wish I had known about the BBB result with the SpaCap company before I burnt my money.

I had to have another one installed in January, the dead of winter. It was a nightmare for me. I despise that company. How terrible to do that to people who really NEED their money to survive.

Thank you to who posted this. I really appreciate knowing I am not the only one who got stolen alive.

The cover sits in my garage and will have to be thrown out, Darn....

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