Raylea Awq

Shane Liddell of SmartCrowdFunding is a smooth conman

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Dear reader, we're writing this brief to tell you about a conman that we recently experience. Our intention is so that no one ever gets conned by this person or company ever again. ​ Here is the story. We wanted to crowdfund a medical reminder product end 2016 (https://igg.me/at/luupa~see about and you can see SCF is a team member) and was looking for a consultant to guide us in the process. We finally engaged SmartCrowdfunding LLC (SCF) owned by Shane Liddell. We were confident that SCF was legit as it was an Indiegogo partner (then not now~keep on reading) found here- https://www.indiegogo.com/partners. Looked professional and all added up ​ We engaged SCF for USD2,000 for their consultation and the campaign ended in disaster. At the end of the campaign, we learnt from Shane that if one does not have ready budget for digital ads, not enough traffic will come to the site to make the campaign successful. This conman could have told us way much earlier saving us all the troubles to launch it in the first place and taking our $2,000 and giving us a joy ride. He convinced us over and over again that organic promotions could also get backers but any monkey can tell that organic promotions is far far less effective (in terms of conversion) as compared to paid digital marketing. ​ So lesson learnt from this and giving him the benefit of the doubt to Shane, for any future campaign anybody wants to do, they must have sufficient budget for digital ads. A hard lesson learnt for us, $2,000 for Shane ​ Part 2 - Campaign Flipmate. We realized the loss of the first campaign and put it behind us. This time, we rallied all our friends and their friends to vouch to fund us the digital marketing for FlipMate (https://igg.me/at/flipmate~see about and you can see SCF is a team member) on success basis. As an example, for every $1,000 raised in the campaign, we will ask our private funders to inject capital of 12% which ios $120 for more digital ads and given them total $170 at the end of the campaign (capital + profits). This cycle goes so on and so forth until the campaign ends doing digital ads to raise as much contribution $150k advertising budget can get. Including this advertising budget and Indiegogo's 5% platform fees and payment gateway fees and SCF 8% of total campaign contributions, it will still make the campaign a success ​ With this exercise, we managed to get our friends aka private investors in total of $150,000 within 24 of them in total. Dennis Zen being the most at $50k ​ The deal We proposed to Shane and told him for this new campaign, that we will work on a pure success basis of 8%-no more $2,000 as per our earlier deal AND HE AGREED with a contract to prove it. As a value add of SCF to the campaign, he voluntarily added into his scope of work to consult us on this campaign - again, this was all part of the 8% success basis arrangement. Why Shane again though we don't like him personally? Easy. Better to deal with the devil you know than the devil your don't AND, we want him to put his money where his mouth is ​ Now, even a monkey will tell anyone that doing work on pure success basis has it's risk and rewards. Shane took this risk. He could see the 8% will come at no cost to him because we are funding the ads. ​ Our arrangement with SCF - we fund all the digital ads by giving SCF the money and SCF just creates and manages the ads. This means, if the campaign raises $100k, Shane aka SmartCroudFunding will get $8k ath the end of the campaign. We also told Shane that we have immediate digital ads budget of $15K immediately and more to come BUT we did not say how much ​ So we entered into an agreement and engaged SCF to manage the digital ads giving them the benefit of the doubt (Wish we hadn't ) that they are experts in this fields optimizing and maximizing chances of conversion rates BUT WE WERE CLEARLY WRONG ABOUT HIS CAPABILITIES ON THIS ​ The con We paid him $2,200 and $2,000 pre launch and launch date respectively. SCF ran the ads. The ads were not converting-only getting less than $5000 from backers from 35,000 visits. Of course Shane waited until 35k visits to tell us something is wrong. He ended blamed us for it like the perks prices were too high, the campaign page was not attractive, the arrangement of the campaign page is not up to standard bla bla bla. (and none of these was his fault of course wink wink). Any born idiot will tell you that we would not sabotage our own campaign especially having such a good number of private funders behind us, a great product and after spending countless hours and spending money preparing for it and funding the digital ads as above. ​ Up until today, they have spent $2.716.05 (see shared folder Flipmate Adspend.pdf) out of $4200 (the total above) making a balance of $1,483.95 where there are only $4,252 contributed by backers. There is a "+$500 (Ad management fee)" by their contractor (Shane claims this contractor Melissa Styles is his staff by the way) to them and we don't believe we should bear this cost because first, this cost was never mentioned to us and secondly we only fund the ads and not other costs like resources, sub contractors, etc etc. As anyone can tell, the campaign is not doing too well. It's had more than 35,000 visits but conversions are just ridiculous. ​ So, we requested him to return the balance of 1,483.95 cos we have our own plans what do to with it. He (Shane) told us to *** off and he wants out of the campaign (on 17th February 2017) and immediately deleting us in Skype. We sent him 4 emails requesting for payment, he only replied one and did not reply the rest. This clearly implies he is not interested to negotiate a refund/transfer let alone give us back the money. Why the sudden change of face from 'friend' to 'foe' the immediate moment we asked back the funds? It's clearly not SCF's money. It's ours. We ask for it back, it's not like it'c coming from out of SCF pocket. Withholding someone's money without permission is called STEALING. What we do with it, is actually none of anyone's business. We don't have to justify to anyone our plans. This is my personal and the teams impression of Shane Liddell ​ Shane's consultation His consultation is very basic and does no real added value to the campaign. He treats all campaigns the same-immaterial of what is being crowdfunded. SCF is not worthy of engaging or hiring. Of course he claims he has gotten some campaign to reach hundreds of thousand or millions but statistically speaking when one have been engaged with many-many campaigns, one or two campaign is bound to exceed the funding goal. It's most likely from the motivation and efforts of the campaigner themselves. ​ Once the money has been transferred into his pocket, you too will be in his pocket. He will boss and bully you around telling you to do this and that which is actually his scope of work ​ He always twist and turn his story making himself always right when he clearly is wrong. He refuses to listen and constantly interrupts you when you are talking to make himself right. He LOVES to pick fights and argue's with you. ​ He does not do research about the product that is being crowdfunded. He doesn't bother to understand the product, feature, or function. We designed it, we researched it. We know. We know what are the selling point of the product and other strength. He never took a second look at it to ask us the major strong point of the product. This behavior is the exact same as the first campaign. If he doesn't know and too proud to ask, how the heck can he sell it? No wonder his advise/consultation is of low value. ​ His story keep on changing. Direction is blur, milestone are never mentioned, no structure-in simple terms, the plan is never revealed to us. He just wants to steer this how and as he wishes. This way, people can't pin him on anything because he has not told them the expectation. We suspect he does this with all his clients ​ He is fault finding-all the time! A simple mistake like a typo in the campaign page is a great big deal for him and he will raise his voice at you for this. SCF's idiot ads creation team made a huge spelling mistake on a paid ad (paid by us) and he said it's no big deal. This is just one example. We have countless more. ​ Skype consultation calls are not structured His skype call with us is totally unstructured. No previous arising matters are discusses, no points or notes are taken by him, no recap, no action item is stated. He starts the call by "So tell me what have you been doing for the past week". Wow. Looks like he engaged us to be his consultant. Then a casual chit chat to finish his time in 30mins or 45 minutes as per his scope of work. He just talks and talks and will lastly say "oops, my time is up with you-I've got a very important call on my next client-puihhhh" ​ Contradicts himself most if not all of the time. As a figure of speech, he will say something today, say the same thing differently tomorrow and differently again the next day and it's our fault because we didn't understand him the first time he said it. ​ Talks but never listens Talks like his God-who doesn't make a mistake. When we highlight to him that he's wrong, he'll raise his voice commanding us to believe that he's right. Who is hiring who here? We're paying for his food on the table right? So no harm having manners to listen a bit and have a decent, structured, productive two way conversation ​ SCF is no more Indiegogo's partner During our first campaign, SCF was Indiegogo's partner found here - https://www.indiegogo.com/partners. But at the time of writing this, SCF is no where in that page. I wonder why! This is what we found - https://www.indiegogo.com/partners/smartcrowdfunding According to Shane, "We even removed our partner page from IGG as I have no reason to be partners with such a platform that cares so little for the backers or the industry." I have this in writing. Strange, it says different here http://www.smartcrowdfunding.us/indiegogo-crowdfunding ​ His team Shane runs a very small team of 3 people. Himself, Pamela and Michelle, He also claims that Melissa Styles is his staff but Melissa Styles told me that she is just an SCF's ads agent-which is which now, clearly someone here is lying. We have a feeling that they work from Shane's small home office. You can hear his dog barking and home sounds in the background when you skype call him. ​ Summary After going through two campaigns with Shane, we learnt: 1) not to argue with him-He's always right, always have, always will be. If you dare tell/prove that he's wrong, he'll raise his voice and interrupts before you can finish. How wonderful. He can read you mind what you are going to say before you finish it. So don't waste your breath. 2) Ignore and accept him screaming and yelling and just try to catch the point that could contribute to the campaign - which is basic and not very useful little information OR information that confirms you own research 3) Be very careful not to offend or corner him- cos if we do, he'll hang up the call and will text and text via skype like a little playing with a mobile phone trying to communicate on an issue rather than a short call to solve it. ​ Conclusion For every one reason he gives you that he can contribute to the success of a campaign, we can give you three reason he can't ​ He acts like a child trying to pick arguments with you all the time while also complaining to you about his other clients! ​ From our two campaign experience we had with this company/person, I would not recommended anyone to patronize their service ​ Public reviews Here are some public review that we found. We've seen them before we engaged Shane and we didn't believe. Now we understood the complainer ​ Our favorite and very true - https://www.pissedconsumer.com/company/smart-crowdfunding/shane-liddell-smart-crowdfunding-scammer-201607****8562.html ​ http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/smart-crowdfunding/internet/smart-crowdfunding-this-company-did-not-make-any-difference-in-the-crowdfunding-campaign-114**** ​ http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/smart-crowd-funding-crowdfundersus-shane-liddell/sarasota-florida/smart-crowd-funding-crowdfundersus-shane-liddell-aka-spectikon-corporation-smart-cr-106**** There is much much more reviews that we have found. I also contacted other campaigners that has engaged Shane and many campaigners have negative reviews about this man Shane Liddell is a liar SCF is an Indiegogo partner since 2013 but $0 in the Indiegogo page? This means there were kicked out of the partner program. Look at other partners and see their contributions raised According to Shane, Indiegogo is the '***' of the industry. But why I wonder he so proudly writes in his website "As arguably the best known crowdfunding site, Indiegogo showcases hundreds of different (more)". What is he actually trying to do? Why we write this We are not pleased with the level of service and Shane's sincerity about this whole exercise. We paid him. We do not appreciate SCF service thinking it's great especially when Shane doesn't try to make things better. Attacking us when we ask for information, not being transparent, not being professional Consumers like us does not like to be short changed as what My Shane did to us. We have the right to voice our opinion to the public about the level of service received or not received. We want our surplus ads money back and Shane gives excuses upon excuses upon excuses ​ Closing There are many other details I have not mention in the story above as this would make the story too long winded. Please feel free to email me at ask@***.com or skype/email me for a call for better understanding of the situation at faridismail5@***.com ​ ​​ To Mr. Shane - the CEO & Self Proclaim Chief Crowdfundologist Our personal message to you Mr Shane Liddell. Our energy would be better spent elsewhere rather than arguing back and forth with you trying to get a reversal for payment aka refund. You have losses, so do we. Much much more than you have lost. This lost came with risk you took so accept the loss and be done with it. Losing $1,483.95 to you will not make us poor, neither will it make you rich. Just return to us the money because it's the right thing to do. Shane is being double standard and changing the deal in the middle of the game When we requested Shane to return the balance of $1,483.95 to our paypal, HE TOTALLY REFUSES and SCF wants to back out of this campaign immediately and Shane notified us that the campaign will never be a success. It's clear to see that SCF want to still get some money out of this no matter what and therefor take our ads balance money of 1,483.95 and pocket it. Though they have spent time and effort to promote a campaign they seem to convenient forget it's on a success basis deal and the risk they took and still want to be paid just as if this is their conventional services-but it's not. ​ On our part, though we are asking back the balance, we will still honor the agreement of 8% to SCF when the campaign ends for all contributions up until today ONLY IF THE CAMPAIGN IS SUCCESSFUL (this is the deal remember) ​ Now, EVEN IF, we pay him the 8%, it is only $340.16 BUT do remember, it will be at the end of the campaign-not at anytime Shane's whims and fancy ​ If on the other hand we stop all paid or organic marketing and the campaign ends with less than $5k in contribution, no campaigner in the right mind will take this money and deliver the perks - it makes no economic sense. We'd rather refund all the contributors and be realize the losses. This includes Shane realizing the losses and will not be paid his 8% ​ But all must remember, with the damage done (very limited time left) to the campaign, it may never even be successful even if we tried, yes we can accept this loss for our mistake for getting such a lousy digital marketeer *** self proclaim "CEO & Chief Crowdfundologist". This will force us to refund all backers and SCF will get $0 and this is the the risk they must face and but it's clear and obvious they want to pin this back to us. ​ Our inspiration We were inspired by Luuup's (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/luuup-litter-box-the-best-cat-litter-box-ever) campaign thus we came out with our own version of cat litter box to crowdfund on Indiegogo. Entering into a working agreement with SCF has clearly diminish our chances of success and worse, the campaign - which is consulted, promoted and digital ads done by SCF can't even get 1% of what Luuup achieved. Is this a good consultant or is this a con-sultant? You be the judge Ok guys, here is another thing that happened today. Shane forwarded me an attachment that his lawyer sent to him for me. The letter reads "You are hereby directed to CEASE AND DESIST ALL DEFAMATION OF SHANE LIDDELL’s and SMART CROWDFUNDING LLC’s CHARACTER AND REPUTATION." At the end of the letter, there is a section for me to sign and Shane will releasing any and all claims against me for defamation. I later contacted the lawyer in this letter and HOLY CRAPP... Oh my God! This is NOT written by the lawyer. Shame shame Mr. Shane. I caught your bluff yet again and again. I wonder how silly you feel now! Please view all related documents in the story above in the shared folder here - [REDACTED]
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Preferred solution: Full refund

Anonymous
map-marker Edwards, California

SHANE LIDDELL - SMART CROWDFUNDING SCAMMER!

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DO NOT hire this company to help you in any way on crowdfunding or marketing services. You will be ripped off! Especially from SHANE LIDDELL! True scammer! I have found out that all of their successful campaigns were by people that already have a marketing team so their success was due to very little help from Smart Crowdfunding! So do NOT hire them because they've told you they've raised millions. That is a LIE! Not to mention the company doesn't even have what it takes to make a campaign successful. They have a very small team of 3 or 4 people (which are only working part time; maybe one/two days a week) and will you will end up doing their job over again because of poor quality. You MUST hire a bigger and better company to help you get the traction you need on your campaign because Smart Crowdfunding is a struggling company. They may have cheap prices but you will get what you pay for! Shane is also a VERY rude individual. He acts like a child trying to pick arguments with you while also complaining to you about his other clients! YOUR MONEY WILL BE WASTED! Shane will tell you basic crowdfunding techniques and that is it! He will promise a ton of traffic from his services but we did not receive a single contribution from anything they had done! We had a terrible experience so please help yourself now and hire a better crowdfunding specialist. There are plenty of good ones out there so don't try to save your money with Smart Crowdfunding! It will be a total waste of your time!
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Guest

Another FAKE review posted by a LIAR! How can people tell?

For starters, you don’t offer any evidence that your claims are true, and you come across as very immature. Let’s analyze your obnoxious rant:

1. You don’t have a name, and hide behind anonymity. REAL reviews are posted for closure and in hopes of getting help from the company.

Perhaps a refund, or making the problem right. Anonymous reviews are usually false.

2. You claim to have run a crowdfunding campaign, but don’t have a crowdfunding link. Either you didn’t have a link to attach (because you are a liar) or you are scared that the people reading your rant will see the campaign page and see the real reason it failed.

Not all campaigns succeed, and there are hundreds of *** (and scam) campaigns on the market. Perhaps nobody liked your campaign…. IF in fact you really ran a campaign.

3. You make claims that they have a small office staff, but no validity to this claim.

You do realize that it is easy to prove how many people work for a company. Right? So that lie can easily be dismissed. Besides, what does office staff size matter?

I care more about experience, skill and dedication.

4. You claim they are “cheap” but their website quotes $10,000. That is not cheap by any means, unless you are rich. And if so, then why did you need money from the public to fund your campaign?

If that is cheap to you, then maybe you are a spoiled rich kid. It must hurt to know even your own parents don’t believe in you enough to give you the money for your idea. No wonder you had a tantrum on here.

Putting all of the evidence together, I am assuming you are either: 1. A competitor taking the sleazy route to success by trying to discredit your competition.

2. An ex-boyfriend/girlfriend who didn’t like being rejected. Or perhaps a wanna be boyfriend/girlfriend. How many times did you fall asleep looking at those images you attached?

You need to get over it and move on. I DID my due diligence, and can personally attest that you are a LIAR! What did I learn? 100% of the testimonials on their page are real.

Contact them yourself if you doubt me. And they all give rave reviews of the team, and Shane Liddell. I even contacted some of the campaigns on their site that didn’t leave testimonials, and on their FB page. I then did a quick google search for press releases by them and would you like to guess what I learned… you lied about that too.

Do you even have an ounce of integrity in you?????? Have you never learned the difference between the truth and a lie? The ONLY reason you posted your fake review on here is because you can’t post fake reviews on real sites. Sites like this are EXTORTION sites!

People like you make me sick and deserve the whole what goes around comes around thing. My ex-husband destroyed me by using this site hoping I would go back to him and let him keep using me as a punching bag. I had built a business from nothing, and made it a success, until HE decided to destroy my reputation. That is why people like you deserve all the bad karma and juju you have coming.

I hope your attempt to destroy a business with LIES and deception backfires, and it comes back to you tenfold as you watch your business fail!!

Guest

Funny how this complaint was lodged by someone claiming to be in Edwards, California but was obviously written by the same person on this complaint who states they are from Castle Hill, Maine:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/SMART-CROWDFUNDING-SHANE-LIDDELL/sarasota-Florida/SMART-CROWDFUNDING-SHANE-LIDDELL-SCAMMER-RIPOFF-UNPROFESSIONAL-Sarasota-Florida-131****

It's fairly clear to see who the real liar is here!

PS. The only reason we do not accept payments for consulting services via bank wire rather than Paypal is that if we did use Paypal for large payments, we'd incur over $300 in Paypal fees.

Please head over to our website and go through the process of paying for one of our $699 or $999 promo packages and you will see that there are no issues with Paypal and there never have been. We have used Paypal for the past 4 yrs and have never had any issue with them at all.

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Denea Fzu
map-marker Oaxaca De Ju, Oaxaca

Smartcrowdfunding Llc bad quality guaranteed

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I as well had a terrible service and zero results from working with smartcrowdfunding.com (smart crowdfunding llc). Very helpful before you order, and they did deliver, but every single part of their service was terrible in terms of quality. Their press release writer is a joke, distribution worthless. I have two journalists in my family, both confirmed that the service they use is nothing else than posting to a number of websites nobody ever cares to look at (including the common man). I ended up buying another service, and with help from my family got the word out and my Indiegogo campaign funded. Stay FAR away from these scammers!!!
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  • Bad quality press release
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Guest

I find it difficult to believe anything in this complaint. If this complain is true then why did you approve the press release for distribution if you thought it was of no use?

All press writers first get approval from the client before they distribute anything.

As for the press distribution service, I do know that they use PRNewswire which is a reputable press distribution service.

And for the record, after talking with them about this, they have not had any dealing with a 'Colin Ren" so obviously a fake name just as this review obviously is.

Denea Fzu
map-marker San Francisco, California

Smart Crowdfunding Llc review - terrible results and straight up scam

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STAY AWAY FROM SMART CROWDFUNDING LLC! Shane Liddel is a scam! Want to see his success stories? 7% funded https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/v...1/x/1236****#/ 22% funded https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a...e/x/1236****#/ 5% funded https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/o...s/x/1236****#/ 31% funded https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/o...e/x/1236****#/ 2% funded https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/b...y/x/1236****#/ 7% funded https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/b...r/x/1236****#/ 14% funded https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/r...r/x/1236****#/ 2% funded https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/b...y/x/1236****#/ 1% funded https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/w...k/x/1236****#/ Smart Crowdfunding LLC will take your money with a smile, and you will get something. I got everything I ordered. The only problem, all of it was total crap. Terrible quality. And nothing worked. It's like buying a Tesla and getting an electrical bike. You will surely lose your money!
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$699
Cons:
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  • High price
  • Smart crowdfunding llc
Reason of review:
Bad quality

Preferred solution: Warn people for a bad service. If you ask $699 and even $999, at least offer quality and something which works.

Anonymous
map-marker New York, New York

STAY FAR AWAY FROM SHANE LIDDELL AND SMART CROWDFUNDING LLC IF YOU WANT TO RUN A SUCCESSFULL CAMPAIGN !!

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It's funny to read the first comment from someone in Shane's team/friends, or Shane himself, as well as Shane's last comment. It's always the same long and lengthy reply which could be summarized in 4 lines... and always the other party who is guilty, it's never his service. However, Smart Crowdfunding LLC did nothing but harm to my IndieGoGO campaign. We DID reach our goal, but not thanks to Shane Liddell. We lost 3 weeks before we decided to rewrite our press release and send it out for distribution again by our own contacts. Stay far far away from Smart Crowdfunding LLC and Shane Liddell!!
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Guest

I doubt it's a fake review. This is exactly our lousy experience from Shane Liddell

Guest

Fake review posted by the competitor crowdprbox

Guest

Fake Review Posted by a competitor called CROWDPRBOX

Guest

"It's funny to read the first comment from someone in Shane's team/friends, or Shane himself, as well as Shane's last comment."

This fake review is just a copy and paste and that is why he mentions this in this review. It was copy and pasted form another fake review

Guest

What comments are you talking about? No one has posted any comments on any of your multiple fake reviews.

Guest

What comments are you referring to? I don't see anywhere where someone has commented on here.

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Lafaye Oph
map-marker Boston, Massachusetts

Smart crowdfunding LLC - Shane Liddell

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We bought the $399 Premier Plan from Shane at Smart Crowdfunding Llc. Got in touch with Shane who answered all my questions. Looked professional and all added up. Until I ordered and didn't see any results. The "professional" press release turned out all except professional and after asking for the journalist promotion, noticed that he used the same 'outlets' as I found on online, but for $5 only... Asked for concrete proof, which he didn't offer me. Showed him where I found the press distribution, but for $5 only,... silence. I ended up ordering another service, who wrote a new pr and got it published. Ended with a fully funded campaign but could have made more if it wasn't for Shane Liddell. A real scammer !
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Lafaye Oph

I as well had a TERRIBLE experience with smartcrowdfunding.us. They did not get a single backer to my campaign.

Shane is an arrogant *** who tells great stories until you buy.

Do not be foolish enough to work with rip-off companies such as this one. I lost time and money.

Guest

Fake review posted by a competitor called CROWDPRBOX

Guest

This review was written by a "Patrick" from crowdprbox.com (who incidentally claim to be based in Boston Massachusetts (the same place as this review originated from) in retaliation to a post on a crowdfunding forum. You can read the forum post here: http://crowdfundingforum.com/showthread.php/14352-Beware-of-the-CROWDPRBOX-scam

Shane L Msu

To understand why this report was generated, please refer to this thread here: http://crowdfundingforum.com/showthread.php/14352-Beware-of-the-CROWDPRBOX-scam

This review was actually made by a competitor acting in spite.

Guest

Please refer to this forum thread to better understand why this complaint was posted: http://crowdfundingforum.com/showthread.php/14352-Beware-of-the-CROWDPRBOX-scam

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Anonymous
map-marker Antwerpen, Antwerpen

SCAM!!!!!!!!!!

When you see the name of this company, run! They act like professionals, however the game plan is hit and run. Here s a short intro about them on http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Smart-Crowdfunding/internet/Smart-Crowdfunding-This-company-did-not-make-any-difference-in-the-crowdfunding-campaign-114****#comment_1 ...However, take heed. DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY WITH THIS COMPANY. They are not customer oriented, they are money oriented. They do not provide a service that makes any difference to your campaign (regardless to their assertion that "complainers campaigns were no good from the start"). The question that begs to be answered by SMART CROWDFUNDING is, if a campaign is no good, why contact the campaign, advertise that you can help, and then disappear? Shane Liddell, Wolf of Crowdfunding!!!!!!!
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Shane L Msu

To better understand why this review was posted here, then please refer to this thread here: http://crowdfundingforum.com/showthread.php/14352-Beware-of-the-CROWDPRBOX-scam

This review is a false review only posted in revenge.

Guest

This complaint is not true as we don not: "..... contact the campaign, advertise that you can help, and then disappear?"

All customers come to us and we don not spam campaigns with solicitations as this person claims.

Please refer here for the real reason for this complaint and another posted on the same date: http://crowdfundingforum.com/showthread.php/14352-Beware-of-the-CROWDPRBOX-scam

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Saleena Rff

Smart Crowdfunding LLC , www.smartcrowdfunding.us - Scamming money from start-ups who want to fundraise in Indiegogo

We are a start-up company wanted to fundraise for a product in Indiegogo.com. We have seen Smart Crowdfunding LLC in Indiegogo's partner page and went to their website smartcrowdfunding.us . Where they got a plan of 699$ (anyone can see that plan in their homepage) , subscribing same can get our campaign will get guaranteed front page exposure, without any other conditions. But even after 15 days, we haven't even got a single response from crowd. As this company just collected money and sit quietly. When i asked for refund, they started to tell stories. here is a statement from them "Just think logically! If we took $600 from clients and turned it into $20,000 within 60 days through a crowdfunding campaign wouldn't we have the best investment opportunity in the world" Everyone knows the above statement. But my questions is, why this company selling a "guaranteed service" isn't this a scam? People like me are just startup, and just using this kind of crowdfunding platform to raise money to start business. but these kind of scam marketing people are sucking blood out from the poor start ups. I have already complained about them on Indiegogo, and they are processing the complaint. But i want to expose this company all over the world, so that no one will get cheated in future.
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$600
Reason of review:
Not as described/ advertised

Preferred solution: Full refund

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Aesha Kty

Shane Lidell and Smart Crowdfunding are a scam! Stay away!

Leyana Pjo
map-marker Sarasota, Florida

Smart Crowd Funding - Crowdfunders.us - Shane Liddell

Smart Crowd Funding - Crowdfunders.us - Shane Liddell AKA Spectikon Corporation, Smart Crowdfunding LLC Shane Liddell is a complete scammer. His company Smart Crowd Funding, crowdfunders.us did nothing to help me. Shane Liddell contacted me through Indiegogo and offered to help promote my crowdfunding project. He said that crowdfunders.us and Smart Crowdfunding would help me get press coverage adn that he would help me with social media promotion. All of his twitter followers turned out to be fake according to TwitterAudit.com. I did not get any press coverage. He also promosied to get my project to the first page of Indiegogo. That did not happen either. Smart Crowd made a lot of promises and did nothing to help. The basically stole $400 from you. I di some research on Liddell and his company Spectikon Corporation. They tried to crowdfund for a project http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/retrievor-the-complete-gps-tracking-retrieving-solution The didn't even get to 2% of their funding goal. This guy is supposed to be a crowdfunding expert? Stay away from Shane Liddell, Smart CrowdFunding and crowdfunders.us
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Guest

When i read your blame game i recalled one of the following sayings, "To speak ill of others is a dishonest way of praising ourselves"

My dear friend, one cannot blame outward things without inward hatred. Outer is the reflection of the inner.

This is the law Eternal.

First, blame yourself because it seems that you have not worked for your campaign. Tell me the cause of your campaign and how much you worked for it. If your dream is only to collect a money then naturally you will fail.

If you love only money then go to http://weshareteam.com/admin/order.php. It is meant for you. You will get an extraordinary satisfaction there. There are several greedy organizations like this which gives basement for other greedy people, but giving habit is the spiritual one.

So, please do not try to exploit it!

Anyway, after reading your blame game i have positively decided to come to an agreement with Shane Liddell.

Soon, i am going to launch the campaign with Shane. For more details, please check my campaign link if you feel to check: http://www.indiegogo.com/project/preview/c640****

Saleena Rff

We are a start-up company wanted to fundraise for a product in Indiegogo.com. We have seen Smart Crowdfunding LLC in Indiegogo's partner page and went to their website smartcrowdfunding.us .

Where they got a plan of 699$ (anyone can see that plan in their homepage) , subscribing same can get our campaign will get guaranteed front page exposure, without any other conditions.

But even after 15 days, we haven't even got a single response from crowd. As this company just collected money and sit quietly.

When i asked for refund, they started to tell stories. here is a statement from them

"Just think logically! If we took $600 from clients and turned it into $20,000 within 60 days through a crowdfunding campaign wouldn't we have the best investment opportunity in the world"

Everyone knows the above statement.

But my questions is, why this company selling a "guaranteed service" isn't this a scam?

People like me are just startup, and just using this kind of crowdfunding platform to raise money to start business. but these kind of scam marketing people are sucking blood out from the poor start ups.

I have already complained about them on Indiegogo, and they are processing the complaint. But i want to expose this company all over the world, so that no one will get cheated in future.

Guest

Instead of attempting to point the finger elsewhere in an act of denial, it would certainly be best if you accept the faqct that ultimately the crowd decided that your campaign/product was not something they were interested in. The sooner you accept this the better.

Anyone with a little bit of business understanding willrealise that you cannot satisfy 100% of your customers 100% of the time. Yes, we do have a few that are unhappy, but for the reasons mentioned below, we cannot be held responsible for campaigns that fail:

The success of a campaign is dependent on several factors of which the 'crowd' decides if the project is worth backing. We drive traffic to the campaign, increase it's visibility through marketing activity and by making sure the project is fully exposed. The rest is up to the project content to sell the product or service. We use our contacts to increase your chances of being successful. Our Premier Plan guarantees you front page exposure for your project which relates to thousands of views from general Indiegogo website visitors!

if we could 100% guarantee the success of projects, we'd certainly change our business model to one which solely created crowdfunding projects of our own.

You also gave reference in your original posting to a crowdfunding campaign which raised less than 2% of it's funding. You are correct but it's clear to see that you didn't do your research correctly. Personally, I have operated several crowdfunding campaigns over the past 3 years. Some of which failed and some of which were successful. In fact here is a campaign I ran last October and it raised over 200% of the funding goal:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/save-our-lions-sanwild-wildlife-sanctuary

We also have helped many, many project creators on the road to success of which here is just a small sample:

Paul Gill - Orsto Smart Watch - Page 1 Technology and over 30% funded (new Premier Plan customer since Saturday18/05 Pauls testimonial is on our website and his campaign was a featured Indiegogo Campaign):http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/orsto-x1-the-ultimate-smart-watch

Ethan Hunt - Micro-Phone Credit Card Cell Phone Page 1 Technology and over 260% funded (Premier Plan customer since beginning of May. Ethans' testimonial is on our website and his campaign was a Featured Indiegogo campaign) http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-phone-the-tiny-mobile-device-with-a-big-idea

Seibo Chen- Vapexhale -Page 2 Technology and 72% funded so far:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/vapexhale-saving-your-health-one-lung-at-a-time

Scale75 minatures - Was a page one campaign of the Gaming category on Indiegogo and also a Indiegogo Featured campaign. 353% funded at the end of the campaign:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/steamwars-by-scale75-miniatures

Anyone is welcome to contact them to ask them about our services. In fact some of them are the testimonials we use on our website

I think that considering your obvious intent and the supporting evidence I have provided, people will make their own minds up and decide if what you have claimed is nothing but a feeble attempt to deflect blame instead of taking responsibility for your own failure!

Guest
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STAY FAR AWAY FROM SHANE LIDDELL AND SMART CROWDFUNDING LLC IF YOU WANT TO RUN A SUCCESSFULL CAMPAIGN !!

It's funny to read the first comment from someone in Shane's team/friends, or Shane himself, as well as Shane's last comment. It's always the same long and lengthy reply which could be summarized in 4 lines...

and always the other party who is guilty, it's never his service.

However, Smart Crowdfunding LLC did nothing but harm to my IndieGoGO campaign.

We DID reach our goal, but not thanks to Shane Liddell. We lost 3 weeks before we decided to rewrite our press release and send it out for distribution again by our own contacts.

Stay far far away from Smart Crowdfunding LLC and Shane Liddell!!

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