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*** bag

This guy is still robing people of there money how is he still going?

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Worst course I have ever taken. Terrible service.

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Paid for services not received. Course was poor quality.

Instructor did not show 2 of the days, he refused to refund for tuition not delivered. Better value can be found spending $10-$20 for online aptitude practice tests. Course involved being left in front of the computer for 7 hrs a day. Except for the 2 days I was sitting in the coffee shop waiting for him to arrive of course.

Flat out refused to refund, and he doesn't answer calls after you have paid. Buyer beware, this is a very poor quality establishment.

Course lacks any structure or detail, most of the tests are just stuff you can get online for free via a google search. Need I say more

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Wish I had seen this earlier. Did you ever take it further?

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Scam - PATS - Pilot Aptitude Training Systems - Jonathan Ryan - Scam

Jonathan Ryan is trying to tout his Pilot Aptitude Training Systems scam on the website PPRuNe under the alias caravanguy2001 . He basically makes comments indirectly promoting the website (which is a scam) or he asks questions of other posters about recruiting information so he can use that information on his fraudulent website ( www.pilotaptitude.com ) to lure in more victims. He has been using that alias for a long time now. Here are some links to some of those posts by Jonathan Ryan touting PATS :

http://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/138119-eaa-testing-interview.html

http://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/138631-anyone-seen-stage-2-aptitude-test-add-todays-australian.html

http://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/138614-qantas-cadets-stage-1-2-testing.html

http://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/579194-qantas-seeking-pilot-2016-a.html

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Yes, that is the same Jonathan Ryan in the link.

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Is this the same Jonathan Laurence Ryan ?

https://www.australiansoletraders.com/soletrader/415********/jonathan-laurence-ryan

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Yes, I took Jonathan Ryan to court a couple of years ago. He paid up when the sheriff came knocking... The sheriff's office said they had a number of warrants in relation to Jonathan Ryan.

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Has anyone taken Jonathan Ryan to court yet?

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http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Pilot-Aptitude-Training-Systems/nationwide/Pilot-Aptitude-Training-Systems-Jonathan-Ryan-Fraudulent-business-Fraudulent-address--129****

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Anyone who has been defrauded by one Jonathan Laurence Ryan aka Pilot Aptitude Training Systems can report the matter to:

https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/report-a-scam

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/cav-forms/generalcomplaint.doj

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Jonathan Ryan does NOT operate from the address 409, 365 Little Collins St Melbourne. You can call the building manager to confirm this.

Jonathan Ryan hasn't been there for years. Using that address is part of the PATS scam you see! I work near Little Collins St and went down there a few months back and saw for myself that there is no business called Pilot Aptitude Training Systems ( PATS ) in the building. I spoke to a man there who said they are receiving all sorts of legal notices for Jonathan Ryan.

He also said people have been turning up there looking for Jonathan Ryan to demand their money back after being scammed. I see that some has posted Jonathan Ryan 's home address on another site so hopefully they now know where to find him.

The person I spoke to suggested I also speak to the police as they may have some more information on Jonathan Ryan and his PATS scam. Has anyone written to Scamwatch the gov website ?

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Does Jonathan Ryan think we are that *** ? Everyone on PPRuNe knows that PATS is a scam.

Why does he bother wasting his time trying to tout this *** on here.

Give it up Jonathan. Scam is overrrrrrr !!!!!

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Hey bro, I saw that post and thought it was sus. Why would someone be so keen to promote a business or product unless they had some invested interest.

Jonathan Ryan has been posting under false names on PPRuNe for years. Pilot Aptitude Training Systems is nothing short of fraud in my opinion. Jonathan will take you money, sit you in front of a computer (if he bothers to show up) and leave you to answer questions that he copied from published books. There is no one on one training or tutoring or any type of actual training.

This guy is plainly ***.

Its an insult on basis human intelligence to suggest that Jonathan Ryan could teach prospective pilots complex mathematics. I spoke to him back in 2008 and he admitted to me that he only went to year 9 at school !!!

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Pilot Aptitude Training Systems was discussed in the following link:

http://www.bladeslapper.com/viewtopic.php?t=10307

Jonathan Ryan clearly telling lies on there too. This deceitful man doesn't know when to stop!

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Fake Business - Fake Address - Fake Website - Fake Course

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Everything about Pilot Aptitude Training Systems is fake. The business is fraudulent.

Who else has been deceived by Jonathan Ryan in Melbourne? I want my money back now Jonathan Ryan. Be aware people. Don't become a victim like me.

I just wanted to get into the defence force. Jonathan Ryan ruined my dreams. Pilot Aptitude Training Systems is a major scam operating in Melbourne. The scam is run by Jonathan Ryan.

Jonathan Ryan you should be ashamed of yourself you fraud. You deceitful person. I've tried ringing you over and over but you won't answer. You took my money knowing I had very little money.

Nobody pay Jonathan Ryan any money ever.

The false website is www.pilotaptitude.com. Stay away from that fake website

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Jonathan Ryan is relentless when it comes to scamming people. He knows no limits.

His scamming transcends state local, state and international borders. His scamming doesn't discriminate. If you have money and a dream, you're his target. Once you part with the cash, you get one of three things.

1. Silence. 2. Excuses.

3. Threats.

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None, nil, zilch

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Bill Gates pretty much sums it up. A simple google search these days will give you all the info you need on Jonathan Ryan.

A land titles search will give you his address (2B Great Valley Road Glen Iris Vic). Consumer Affairs know him, ASIC knows him, Vic police knows him, CFA and MFB knows him. They will all warn you against using the services of Pilot Aptitude Training Systems - its a scam.

None of the business or entities listing on www.pilotaptitude.com endorse this dodgy 'business'. Just call any of them to confirm this

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Does Jonathan Ryan actually have ANY experience as a pilot????

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Jonathan Ryan made me put my wallet and phone in a container at his so-called "office" and stole money whilst he made me go get him a coffee around the corner. Total loser.

Still waiting on the refund..

where is my money Jonathan? You know who I am!

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I think Jonathan Ryan used my credit card details without my authorisation. After I got conned out of $3495 from him (he didn't event bother to show up) I saw an additional charge on my statement from him.

I'll leave it up to the police to look into it. The bank paid me back the money.

But stay away from PATS. Its a scam alright

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I wouldn't be surprised if Jonathan Ryan uses peoples personal info he gets via www.pilotaptitude.com for identity theft etc. This guy is out of control with the whole PATS scam. Why not just get a real job and earn a living through legit means ?

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My lawyer in Adelaide did an ASIC search. He said his full name is Jonathan Laurence Ryan who lives at 2B Great Valley Road Glen Iris Victoria.

Apparently this info is publicly available for a fee. Anyone that needs to serve legal documents now knows where to find this *** bag.

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More complaints about Jonathan Ryan the scammer from PATS:

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/pilot-aptitude-training-systems-scam-c802827.html#c172****

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I reported my complaint to Consumer Affairs in Victoria. They too have files on Pilot Aptitude Training Systems here in Melbourne.

They said Jonathan Ryan has moved his scam to another location. Keep an eye out for him. Jonathan Ryan likes to hang around high schools peddling his "course" to school leaves.

Its only takes a few minutes talking to Jonathan Ryan before you realise his IQ is below average and you start to question why you paid him $4500 to training you in aptitude tests - the problem is its too late cause you have already paid him and the money is long gone. You will only get the cash back reporting fraudster Jonathan Ryan and his ripoff course called PATS tot he police or consumer affairs or something like that

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Jonathan Ryan pilot aptitude fraud

Be careful of pilot aptitude systems. This man a very bad man, he take money and not give school very good.

He not nice man...Beverly bad, vely bad.. He treat me like not vely nice. I travel berry far from a long whey away and he promise me I pass fireman school, I want to like fireman and he not help me vely much. I think he just want my Mundy that my papa took from his long work at farm..

Not do Jonathan Ryan use or you money lost. Berry berry bad man.. I want to report him to the training school of government. He says he do training for fireman or for pilot or for street sweeper man who get good pay for working in train station on the river very much.

I think Melbourne scam Jonathan Ryan is fraud bad man pilot aptitude fraud. He stole money and steal money from people who work very hard for money

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Do a check at the VCAT in melbourne or the magistrates court in melbourne. There s a few files on Jonathan Ryan there as well. He's been red hot lately

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A simple google search these days will give you all the info you need on Jonathan Ryan. A land titles search will give you his address (2B Great Valley Road Glen Iris Vic).

Consumer Affairs know him, ASIC knows him, Vic police knows him, CFA and MFB knows him. They will all warn you against using the services of Pilot Aptitude Training Systems - its a scam.

None of the business or entities listing on www.pilotaptitude.com endorse this dodgy 'business'. Just call any of them to confirm this

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ALL students should stay away from PATS and old boy Jonathan Ryan, not just international students. he will target any one he sees as vulnerable and an easy target. The details on this page are fake I reckon:

http://www.pilotaptitude.com/?page=CostsBooking

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International students take notice: Pilot Aptitude Training Systems is a scam in Melbourne. Indian students are being targeted by Jonathan Laurence Ryan.

He takes your money and runs. No refund. No service. Very abusive to Indian students.

Swears at students when asked for refund. Not recommend to any others.

Please give back money Pilot Aptitude Training Systems and Jonathan Laurence Ryan from Glen Iris address in Melbourne. Here is scam site:

www.pilotaptitude.com

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Jonathan Ryan doesn't know when to give up. How many people can you defraud before the law catches up with you.

Pilot Aptitude Training Systems scam is over Jonathan Ryan. Your prison cell is being made up at the moment. I wonder who your cell mate will be Jonathan Ryan. Have a think about that.

Walk down to your local police station and hand yourself in. Confess to your fraudulent activities. Too many people have been ripped off by you Jonathan Ryan.

Remove your phoney website www.pilotaptitude.com from the internet. No one else should be a victim of your crimes.

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I can't believe the PATS scam is still going. Unbelievable.

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Pilot Aptitude Training Systems is a scam. I know for a fact

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The website www.pilotaptitude.com is fraudulent. The person behind the fraudulent website is Jonathan Ryan.

If you pay Jonathan Ryan any money you will never see your money again and you will not get anything he promised you. You will not get any services. You will not get a refund. He is a fraud.

Pilot Aptitude Training Systems is how Jonathan Ryan defrauds people. I am a teacher here in Melbourne and have warned our students to stay away from this conman and his fraudulent business.

It really breaks my heart when I hear of my students being conned out of thousands of dollars by people like Jonathan Ryan. The authorities should remove the website www.pilotaptitude.com from the internet.

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Jede menschliche Einrichtung hat ihre eigenen Regeln, ihre Rituale. In einer Bäckerei geht es anders zu als etwa in einer Näherei.

Der Ton in der Welt der Finanzinstitute ist für Außenstehende nicht so einfach zu verstehen. Er kann hart sein, aber auch sehr weich. Wenn kritische Anfragen wegen der Geschäfte des jeweiligen Geldhauses kommen, bedanken sich Banken – anders etwa als Industriekonzerne – meist sehr freundlich für die kritischen Fragen und versichern höflich, dass sie „im Rahmen des Möglichen gern antworten“ möchten.

Das Mögliche ist meist sehr klein und wenig konkret. Irgendjemand muss den für heikle Fälle zuständigen Bankmitarbeitern gesagt haben, es sei klug, gleich zu erklären, dass man „zu Existenz und Umfang einzelner Geschäftsbeziehungen grundsätzlich keine Angabe“ machen dürfe: Geschäftsgeheimnis, Bankgeheimnis, Datenschutz.

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Definitely a scam. Jonathan Ryan is known on many sites to be a fraudster:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Pilot-Aptitude-Training-Systems/nationwide/Pilot-Aptitude-Training-Systems-Jonathan-Ryan-Fraudulent-business-Fraudulent-address--129****

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Jonathan Ryan pats fraud pilot aptitude

If you want to lose your money for a course that serves no purpose and does not assist you whatsoever in your training for any future job than PATS is the answer. Jonathan Ryan is just a seasoned *** man who just swindles money out of people as quickly as possible and does not even turn up for the proposed course date.

He does not even have an office, he works out of a Burger King store at woolloomoolo. Stay clear of this dodgy company and dodgy individual who will just take your money and throw it on the next horse race at flemington.. He is an absolute piece of ***. If you book a course with him you are an absolute *** who is asking for trouble.

Your best off donating your money to the salvos. At least it is a better cause than his alcohol fueled gambling sessions at flemington.

Don't believe a breath that comes out of his mouth. He is an absolute *** man piece of *** who nearly caused my wife her pregnancy because of financial losses.

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Reading all these comments is sickening. How could someone act so unconscionably.

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Bill Gates pretty much sums it up. A simple google search these days will give you all the info you need on Jonathan Ryan.

A land titles search will give you his address (2B Great Valley Road Glen Iris Vic). Consumer Affairs know him, ASIC knows him, Vic police knows him, CFA and MFB knows him. They will all warn you against using the services of Pilot Aptitude Training Systems - its a scam.

None of the business or entities listing on www.pilotaptitude.com endorse this dodgy 'business'. Just call any of them to confirm this

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Heaps of ppl have sued Jonathan. Read all of the posts on the other forums. They say he pays up once the sheriff gets involved etc

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Has anyone taken Jonathan Ryan to court yet?

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I wonder how many people out there have been ripped off by Jonathan Ryan. Any guesses ?

Pilot Aptitude Training Systems is well known now in aviation circles to be a scam.

Unfortunately new comers to the industry haven't heard about Jonathan Ryan from Glen Iris. Hopefully the word will get around soon enough that he is fraudster with no morals and will fleece every last cent out of unsuspecting victims

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http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Pilot-Aptitude-Training-Systems/nationwide/Pilot-Aptitude-Training-Systems-Jonathan-Ryan-Fraudulent-business-Fraudulent-address--129****

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