National College Of Technical Instruction

I attended an EMT program from an off-site location. I really liked my class, that is until they fired our instructor in the middle of the program.

Not only did NCTI screw-over our instructor, but AMR denied all our ride time. We thought we had lost everything. Lucky for us, our instructor was hired by another training institution and we were all allowed to continue our program through them.

Our instructor cared more about us getting a good education than the greedy college that cared more about our money. Our ride-time was done with an AMR competitor.

went to the NCTI in portland and it was a total joke. Save your money and go to a community college.

So if you have never been to that school then don't comment.

I just finished clinicals and I've started to grow a beard until my field internship starts. I'm sure I will look like tom hanks from the movie Cast Away!

My opinion.....

NCTI is incompetent at best.

M Ruston Fire Captain/Paramedic

I am a national reg. paramedic that graduated from NCTI riverside campus.

You definitely get what you put into the program. Be prepared to find your own preceptor and play the game. The school cost a lot, but the training was good. Worth 10K?

No! Try to go to any other school and if you have to then go to NCTI. Also, their units do not transfer to Crafton or RCC.

There is only one school up north and they require you to attend over 12 units before they let your units transfer.

How is it nctis fault that there aren't a lot of preceptors or that your call volume was lacking? Should they have sent instructors out with baseball bats to make you some patients?

NCTI Bay Area/Livermore is no different. I solicited my own clincal and field internship preceptors because I was not willing to wait in line behind multiple students from multiple programs which I knew would take upwards of 6 months.

It still took the program administrators months to finish the necessary paperwork for me to start them. No one in the office answers the phone and good luck getting a return phone call or email. It will not happen. In the past couple years they have fired and re-hired nearly their entire staff and nobody has the experience to run the program effectively and the students are taking the hit while they collect the outrageous tuition.

I'm not sure what it's paying for but it is definately not program improvment. My field internship agency is no longer accepting interns from their programs because they are tired of dealing with thier administrators!

If you are in the Dallas area, dont waste your time. This program is an absolute joke.

First off they fire the course coordinator/lead instructor a week before my class began, a week into class they then fired the administrative person.

They have lost several checks for tuition. i have contacted several people but no body in the corporate office has a clue what the other is doing.

Ncti was the worst school I have ever attended. I was dismissed from

The program after completing my internship because my preceptor didn't sign me off.

I had no support from the school which claim to e student advocates!

I think there should be a class action suite against NCTI and the Milwaukie Oregon program. Anyone on board contact me.

I graduated from NCTI Paramedic class 13 at the riverside campus. I will be the first one to tell you that the school has problems but not unlike anyother program... You get out of things what u put into them. If you study u pass...! Plain and simple, just because u pay a lot of money doesn't mean you pass and it certainly doesn't mean you are entitled to special treatment... I was an average student and I worked hard for that. It took forever for me to get into my clinicals...why??? Because I had to wait on openings...openings that were taken up by students who felt entitled. Students who thought it was ok to just do 1 or 2 shifts a week because they already finished the classroom portion. When it was my turn I did 5 shifts a week and finished up and moved on making room for the next guy. The same was true of my internship, unlike 90% of my class that would only do their time at a fire agency within 20 mins of where they live, I made the choice that my future was worth a drive and choose to drive 3+ hours one way to my internship. Then while there I did everything I could to make sure I performed at a paramedic level and completed my shifts at 20, the minimun required, again I moved on and made room for the next student who cared enough about his future to make the sacrifices.

I went on to complete my national registry and went to work as a Paramedic, now I'm about to take my examinatin to be certified as a flight paramedic.

Say what u want about NCTI but at the end of the day failure is no ones fault but your own...

,Mike

My son paid NCTI 11K to enroll in their Paramedic Course based on their ability to place their students in Predeptorships on Ambulances because they own AMR, America's largest ambulance company.

He enjoyed his classroom work because the instructors were experienced paramedics and all the hands on experience exercises.After the classroom graduation, he had to wait four months for an emergency room Preceptorship at Kaiser..When he heard from other class mates that they weren't getting any assistance in the Ambo placements, he was shocked because AMR has a corner on the national ambulance franchise. They have the boxes and the EMT/Paramedic teams.Why can't they just add a trainee to as many boxes as possible. It would provide an extra set of hands and improve their service and attention to detail.

While AMR charge over 1K for their preceptorship, I suspect that none of that is shared with the team. AMR has had a very contentious with ambulance employees on pay, benefits and working conditions.I am sure that students would gladly pay extra for an expedited ambo placement just so they could begin their careers inorder to pay off their expensive credit card student loans. AMR could easily remedy this situation if they could entice their employees to take on more trainees by giving a generous stipend to encourage this assignment.

Based on AMR's lack of due diligence in placing their students, I would recommend attending a community college at a fraction of the cost, since AMR's total indifference to provide timely preceptorships removes their advantage. :sigh

As a grad in the top 5 of my class from his program I feel like I have the right to forewarn any future prospects to their Basic and Paramedic programs. I've received a bachelor's degree from a 4-years institution and also attended several community colleges during my educational career which has given me some perspectives as far as how professional and organized the administration of an educational curriculum can/should be.

NCTI is the farthest thing from a professional organization that you can get. Even further, Dave Schappe, the Program Director at the Milwaukie Oregon campus, is disrespectful, unprofessional, inappropriate and condescending as an instructor. It was a blessing everytime a proctor came in to teach a portion of the class. Getting a proctor actually provided some relevant experience as to what paramedics are experiencing in today's EMS world - The reason??

Dave Schappe has not practiced EMS in over 10 years. He is book smart only. He has lost touch with the current model of EMS as well as how to respectfully instruct a classroom of adults.

Over the course of the last 4 years, I have met 3 different people who have hired attorneys to resolve outrageous issues with Dave Schappe. This awful teacher should never teach another day in his life - it's fitting that a teacher of this caliber would end up at such a sub-par program.

I took an EMT class over the summer and then had to take another one this past semester. Let me tell you, the class at NCTI was a joke compared to the training I got at Cuesta College.

At Cuesta, there were actual procters on our lab days, the teachers would go into detail about things, and they didn't treat you like *** because you weren't a paramedic student like the lady did at NCTI! If your interested in taking an emt class at NCTI in Santa Barbara, DON'T!!!!

Not only will you waste $1,050, you wont learn a thing. Save your money, spend a little more time on a semester long class, and get the training you need!

My wife is currently attending the program. It is a struggle & she requires 8-12 hour of tutoring a week.

As she gets tutoring here near home, she also makes a 50 mile drive to the school to attend classes & tutoring sessions.

Recently, as she was receiving a tutoring session here near home, she was attempting to schedule a tutoring session there at the school. She called the various office numbers, leaving messages. She needed a reply so she could make plans for the rest of the day. After 2-3 hours, she called those numbers back, with no answer. The tutor, who was giving the session then, offered their phone to make the call. Using that phone, the call was picked up, on the 1st ring.

IMO, they don’t want to help the students that are challenged. They want ones that’ll pay the money, breeze through the program & leave. I don’t think NCTI has the resources to help the students that have the high anxiety that arise, when attending such a comprehensive program.

Though they are more than happy to take your money, I see them as negligent in delivering on their product. A student has to pay $9K for the school, but after books, clinicals & miscellaneous costs, the program is $12,000!

If I was trying to change to this profession, I would go through a JC & pick off as many of the classes pertaining to the Paramedic field as I could. Some JCs offer a EMT/Paramedic program. I think that would be your best route, aside from the time requirement.

NCTI does offer free tutoring, tailored toward the tests, the didactic.

I realize this is years old. You even admit in your comment that you were behind.

When I attended they made it clear if you were behind you were to receive disciplinary action. You wasted that money through laziness.

A student started with another NCTI location 98%, transferred to COS for financial reasons and 2 months later failed out with studying 8 hours a day

Every member of the community outside of the college will inform you of the Lead Instructors lack of interpersonal skills

If you question a word she says, it's over

The college does not care about your complaints

The dean will tell you no one has complained before

The student rep for NCTI will tell you no one has complained before....

Upper management did not take action and over saw the entire ordeal

Total waste of time, a year, and money

Go to a different program

The NCTI Oregon Location(Milwaukee) is a joke. First day of class Jennifer one of the facility members couldn't even pronounce some of the words.

It's in a run down building and the facility and instructor's are ***'s. Save your money.

This class was terrible! The teachers themselves are very cool people, but it was a shame to see them have to be put in the situation they were.

The head lady would just tell them to read the power point, and would not tell them what was on the test. Along with that, she wouldn't give them the answers to the tests and when we would discuss the test in class, the book would say something and the teachers would say something else and no correct answer would be given. We were told that the class had a 90% passing rating... YA RIGHT!!!!!!!!!

we had over 60% of the class not even get to take the final! Not only would no one show up for our lab days to help, our own teacher told us that we were getting screwed because all the head lady cared about was her paramedic students! I got screwed out of $1,050, that I'm pretty sure she just pocketed. Don't take this class!

Worst decision of your life! It sucks taking a semester long class, but worth it in the end!