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Cannot access fitness material and I purchased for $597.

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Keuilian - Cannot access fitness material and I purchased for $597.

Why does none of the customer service phone numbers work? I am upset about this.

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$597

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Anonymous

Not resolved whatsoever

I just want to access my account for the fitness studio formula. Keeps saying they sent the link to reset, but is nowhere in my email. Please help

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Anonymous
map-marker Chino Hills, California

FANTASTIC - Best decision EVER!

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I am just posting a review because I think the 1 pissed off person who wrote that they had a bad experience is a reflection of that person & not FBBC or Bedros & his staff. As a matter of fact, Bedros & his staff are amazing.

I opened my 1st FBBC this year & cleared $42K in the past 30 days alone. I was profitable within 2 weeks of being open. Less than a year opened & I have about 240 members on contracts & they are getting results & I am making money. It is a win/win for members, owners, & Keuilian.

Try that with any other franchise.

Won't happen. I am so thankful to Keuilian & FBBC for being so awesome!

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Anonymous
map-marker Cary, North Carolina

Not worth the money!

I'll make it very simple for you. You can order from Bedros all you want; however, what he doesn't tell you is how much you really need to spend to make it happen.

He, along with his other goons are just big bullies when you don't do something they like. I went the NPE route and saw so much more progress and saw systems put in. They are people doing the same thing he's doing at a fraction of the cost and getting you 2-3 times the results that he is. He is all about value, but his value and bullying techniques are those of a child.

Don't buy from him. This is coming from a former Fit Body Boot Camp owner.

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2 comments
Guest

what is NPE?

Guest

What is NPE?

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JOSH C Opz
map-marker Tilburg, Noord-Brabant

BEDROS SCAM? KEUILIAN FRAUD?

Whatever you do, read the fine print and take your time. bring it with you (if they let you) and go over it in detail.

i keep getting billed more and more after the verbal agreement said i would not be billed non stop. when i tried to get Bedros and his cronies to stop, they laughed and said it is "just business" they said everyone should have a lawyer go over the contracts that they have you sign. said i should do the same with my clients. didn't say that till after i signed!

they said i was lazy and dumb for not understanding the contract and how what they said contradicted it and how i never caught it. they said "we got ya!" they sure didn't recommend i get a lawyer when they had me sign it. trust me, they loophole everything in their favor. get a lawyer & go over the contract before you sign it.

don't just sign it right a way like i did. his salesman will try to talk you out of thinking about it. they get really upset when you want to let your spouse or anyone else know about it. i was afraid.

nothing wrong with having someone else (like a lawyer) go over the "deal" before you agree to it. Thanks for nothing bedros!

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12 comments
Guest

Wow... This is one stance where haters shood kiss Bedros' rich & successful ***!!! :p

Guest

Bedros is the man, I have bought numerous products from him and there top quality...anybody who is serious about growing their fitness business should be on his mailing list. Trust me you will not look back.

His back room staff are awesome to - marilyn always responds to my queries promptly - thank you bedros you're an inspirational figure and I owe thousands of pounds of revenue to your systems and products.

These guys are hating dude...

Guest

Lately I've seen a few complaints about Bedros and his products online. I've been following Bedros for close to a year now without purchasing anything from him. I took a big leap of faith and decided to purchase a product.

The product I received was nothing of what was promised. The actual product - what was described and promised on the website - was not what I received and paid for. In truth, I didn't actually receive anything other than a link to 'free' stuff. I contacted the office and was told 'ooh ya, we haven't updated the page yet to reflect that you are not getting what you paid for'. It took 3 weeks to receive a refund.

Very disappointed and will not purchase anything again.

While I believe Bedros has good information for PT's out there - this situation has certainly had me step back a few and re-evaluated his sincerity.

bedrosgarbage S

hey bedros, i have already contacted your office several times. whats up? :upset :upset

Guest

If you are not happy with the Pt business book get NPE it is better :) :)

Guest

I'm sorry to hear that you're not satisfied with my product- I really aim to please every single customer. Please contact my office for an immediate refund, no questions asked. My office number is 1-80*-***-**** x 1

Bedros

Guest

:? This person is obviously brain damaged.

Bedros' information has been nothing but helpful to our PT business and I for one am grateful for his wisdom. As for impersonating Josh Carter, that seems to be identity theft with intent to defame.

Guest

Hi, I am Bryn, and like Josh, I did not write the mean spirited message from "Bryn" above. Whoever is writing this erroneous reports should be more creative when picking their aliases and not using clients or employees... Bedros Keuilian and Keuilian Inc ROCK!

Guest

The poster is a flat out liar. How do I know this?

Because I am Josh Carter, and the likelihood of this guy being a client of Bedros AND having my same name is exactly ZERO. So not only is he a liar, he is also a coward. If you have a gripe that's fine, but use your own name or even be anonymous but don't try to steal my (good) name. I would not give what this person says any weight whatsoever.

Lest you think I am the liar, feel free to call me at my thriving business, all thanks to Bedros. Be sure to ask for me: Josh Carter, 818-766-****

Guest

unfortunately that is common with sales these days. the mantra keeps repeating itself and it says buyer beware. don't forget it.

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Sandy Kzy
map-marker Rome, Lazio

Keuilian staff are thieves and liars!

In October of 2010 I placed an order with Keuilian Health and Fitness for their PT Business Course, for a total of over $400.00… They never sent me a tracking number, although I requested one via Fed Ex so I could make sure to be around to sign for the package, as well as have a rough idea as to when it would be delivered.

For the most part, I make my own schedule, so I stayed home as much as I could, patiently waiting for the package; no Package! What a waste of time.

After the first week went by, I never got an email response, so I decided to call them to follow up. After several agonizing sessions of being put on hold, being told I would be called, and being promised that my order would be shipped out the next business day (this happened at least four or five times), I demanded my money back. They said they wouldn't give me a refund because it's not their "policy". This made no sense to me because on the order page it clearly stated their famous "no risk 365 money back guarantee."

Weeks went by… I kept emailing and calling. No manager or owner was ever available to speak to me. Eventually when I continued to call them they would just lie to me and tell me that "Peter" in charge of shipping orders, was at lunch. Every time I called no matter what time of day it was, he was at lunch? This was five months ago… Keuilian effectively swindled me for over four hundred dollars. They are fraudulent criminals.

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2 comments
Guest

There is no special formula, he is selling snake oil. You identify your niche if you have one.

You contact people in that niche, offer them your service, then follow up with quality results.

Good service sells. Simple.

bedrosgarbage S

they are thieves and liars. thanks for posting your review and i am sorry for your loss

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Jed L
map-marker London, England

Spread the Word About the Real Bedros Keuilian, *** Man Extraordinaire

This guy cannot be alright with God the way he cheats people out of their savings on a daily basis. armenian catholic? i have a feeling your church is soon going to find out about the "real" Bedros. I know someone who goes there and their going to hear about you. I bet you spend 20 hours a day in a confession booth if your honest with the priest. who knows how you find time to rip others off with a schedule like that to get into heaven. time to repent and change your ways.

You really don't care at all do you bedros. behind your phony smile lies an extra set of teeth! you even laugh about ripping people off on your dvd's. little did we know that we who bought them are also victims. why not, cause with that mentality it would make sense that you would *** anyone you can. had no idea until i watched it. i was shocked and offended how you laugh at conning others.

you talk about dale Carnegie? you don't even have a clue. if you read his book, like you said you did, bedros, you would be genuine and not update your site daily with "offer ends by midnight of ....." and then redo it for the next day! lowest of low. c'mon! Carnegie would be ashamed to admit you read his book and had the gull to mention it as well, since you don't follow any of it. open your eyes - you a bad advertisement for self-help. your a disingenuous liar and the proof is on your own site, updated daily at the buyers expense.

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6 comments
Guest

I have bought some of Bedros Kuelian's services in the past. I found him and his company to be a complete fraud!

He is a typical used car salesman/fraud.. He does the fitness industry a total disservice. Most trainers get into the business to help others, ( not lie and steal like Bedros does).

Do yourself a favor and don't fall for his scams!

I have also found his testimonials to be be fraudulent! I wouldn't give the guy a cent, ( Buyer be ware!!)

Guest

Do not listen to these people they are liers I have bought a couple of Bedros products and I went from making 30k a year to making almost 100k this year. This was in one years time using his products.

Guest

I bet "m" works for Keuilian. The NPE guys are much more professional :)

Guest

Catholic? I thought Bedros was middle eastern Muslim

Guest

I am not suprized much at all. these guys build exitement with a deadliine (the consumer affairs protection warns of this) and they pressure you to act now after giving you bait of freebies. common knowledge.

Guest

I saw he does change his "offer ends by..." and then immediately posts it again for the current date! My computer also ran a security check when I went to his site.

Pop-Up spam everywhere!!

Thanks for the warning about this phony. Obviously he cannot be trusted.

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Eleanore Tko
map-marker Maidenhead, England

Boot Camp SCAM [truth revealed]

All I asked was to be taken off of the mailing list. Is that too much to ask for?

Some guy named Chris is also emailing me junk under the "name" I gave for the Bedros email list so I know Bedros is all about sending the spam and selling your info, how else would they spell my name wrong? Its the way I sent it to Bedros and only Bedros.

It looked like an email he sent talked about boot camp things he offers, but it really just pressures you to buy more and more (if you have not already). If the first product is "all you need" why keep buying from him?

Does not make sense at all.

I will report this guy as a spammer (even though half of his emails get sent to my spam folder already!). If you have subscribed, good luck unsubscribing!

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Guest

I think bedros is an innovater and whoever is unhappy its probably because they want results without working fot them!

Guest

All of these complaints are fake, I know because I used to work for Chris McCombs, the guy who put these up and asked me to write some too. Just look at all of the complaint dates, they're all in Feb and March of 2011 when Chris (who was drugged up and drunk at the time) had a MAJOR hate on for Bedros for no reason other than jealousy.

Shame on you Chris McCombs!

bedrosgarbage S

looks like you are one of the lucky ones. most of us have lost mega $$$$. anyway, good luck getting off of his spam list it is definitely annoying.

Guest

another disgruntled employee i bet or a NPE competitor. :?

Marilyn K Ljj

Cris is that obese trainer salesman

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Anonymous
map-marker Dallas, Texas

Dont buy from keuilian health and fitness

I took a chance and placed an order online with a company called keuilian health and fintess based in CA.

They sell accessories for personal trainers. After placing the order and paying with my Credit card, I received a confirmation-email about my order. That's the last I've heard from them.

I have sent multiple emails asking the status of my order. However, to date, there has been no merchandise, no return emails, no responses, no nothing. Do not order from this company. Don't be taken like I was. It is apparently a scam. Their url is www.keuilian.com.

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bedrosgarbage S
map-marker Berlin, Berlin

Bedros is a liar and so are his staff...

So far I called them at least twice with no luck.

The person answering said the matter would have to be taken up with another department. She never would answer what department she was referring to? The second time she said she would "personally walk the request over to the other department." I never heard from them and they have ignored my phone calls and subsequent emails.

Trying to return the item, I was told that it had to be in the original packaging (how often can you open an item without destroying the original packaging?). They then kept the item and refused any refund.

Bedros and his staff are all crooks! Buyers beware!

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Angie S Maj
map-marker Tranbjerg, Arhus

Arminian Fraud, by Bedros Keuilian?

Hey Bedros, whats new? I have not heard back from you yet and am wondering if you are OK?

I am not, that's for sure. It's me again, you know, Angie "the trainer" from Utah. Just wondering when you are going to replace the defective products you sent me? Five-hundred bucks later and I still have stuff that is useless.

Gee, now I have to pay for the disposal of said products. Oh and by the way, I never did get the book I ordered! What happened, it was supposed to be in the "package"? Another false promise?

This seems to be your specialty.

Just wondering when, or if, you will help me out since I gave you this hard-earned money. I paid for products of yours and completely followed through on my end, so the least you could do is send me the "quality" you promise (and guarantee). I actually trusted you, an internet ***-man...So long to that false idea of getting my money back! Guess I have more junk, as well as a bunch of junk-mail in my email boxes than ever from you guys, and, five hundred dollars less than I did two weeks ago!

The least you could have done is sent me things that actually worked for that amount of money! You call yourselves trainers.

Pyramid schemes take all shapes and forms.... Oh, and speaking of forms, hey Bedros and crew, take some advice from Angie: Go easy on the Cheetos guys!

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8 comments
Guest

Bedros is a cheat and a liar. Don't buy anything from him!

Guest

Bedros and carter are in great shape. the others are not. get your facts straight before you post :)

bedrosgarbage S

hey arminiancon, thanks for posting your review! I see that i am not alone.

Guest

It is well known that Stigler works for Keuilian so don't take what he says to serious. If you go to court, don't sweat it.

Keuilian's credibility will be out the window before the hearing even begins! Lets start a class action lawsuit against this outfit and put them out of business.

Guest

Listen to Stigler..He is right that he might take you to court. Bedros has a whole team of lawyers working full time at his disposal.

Some of these sharks were on the Enron defense team. Be very careful, they are almost as ruthless as Bedros himself! If he takes you to court he will try to take everything and I mean everything. If he had his way, your children would starve.

This guy is dangerous. :sigh :sigh

Mike Acm

This post is a total fake. I've used his products for years and even went to his events and B is a total stand up guy.

You clearly have a chip on your shoulder or are a hater. Either way he should take your *** to court.

Guest

You sound more like an ex employee with a user name like that.

Guest

don't expect to hear from this guy he does not respond to "negative" customers :roll

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poopandyou F
map-marker Livermore, California

Bedros Keuilian, let me send it back!

This guy sucks! There are other gurus who charge a fraction of what Bedros do and their stuff is better.

Plus, they let you return their stuff if you dont like it! no matter what he say, Bedros wont!

dont buy from a scammer like Bedros. typical internet trash who preys on the vulnerable who think they need his help.

cost me hundreds for *** that does not do what it say. Bedros claims that he is the best and the number one trainer for trainers?

sure thats why all your reviews are from your friends who you pay and give gifts to? you all suck.

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9 comments
Guest

Who do you recommend? Email me at erickanaloa@***.com

Guest

I lost my friends little spiral book that came with the expensive Selling Fitness Kit and need to replace it.

Wish I could get it replaced.

Please let me know if you will sell me yours for $20.

Guest

At least you got your stuff, I for one didn't get what I ordered.

Guest

most of his positive reviews are from his friends, bribed customers, as well as himself. they are not objective and are from his own sites (which he has many)

Guest

I'm not sure if you guys are serious or what? I've been using his products for years, and even attended his Fitness Business Summit twice and the guys is totally genius.

I went from one boot camp to three in just under a year and he even gave me a free coaching call when I was confused on how to hire new trainers.

I have a feeling you guys are just hating on him. That's sad that you'd put out such bad energy.

Guest
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Mike, thanks for the support :) Hey guys if you look at the dates of this "scam" report you'll see that this and and other four on the web were done between Feb 10th and March 15th of 2011. They are fake reports and they're done by a guy (competitor) who was also sending me death threats at the time.

Anyhow, if you want to know if I'm legit and if my products who then find me on Facebook, or email me personally at BedrosMastermind@***.com and you'll see I'm the real deal and I'll gladly send you any one of my products for review at no cost to show you that my stuff works. All the best, Bedros

Guest
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I have used Bedros Keuilians products and they are actually incredible! The man is very generous and has pulled himself up by his own boot straps!

I don't think he would be coaching people like Jillian Michaels and celebrity trainers if he wasn't the real deal.

Dominic Roche

Dominicroche.com

Boxer/Trainer

Guest

well, if there is a gurantee then you can use that to ask for your money back if you can track him down.

Guest

I understand what you are going through. I feel for ya. Same thing happened to me a few months ago except I returned it and never got any repose (or refund) from Bedros.

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Anonymous
map-marker Dallas, Texas

Warning: Bedros Site is Viral!!

Went to his site and my computer went goofy when i clicked on his links. viral scan running every time i try to go there.

this guy has an email and i emailed him but he won't write back. guess his site is supposed to run like this. also warned me of spy ware! What!!

i don't understand why his site is so *%^&*ed up! anyone selling stuff should at least know not to add spyware on a prospect's computer.

it was a hided bug that he plants in your computer, like a a virus bug that you download without knowing about it. This guy is a pop up virus!

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Guest

The sad truth is that Bedros Keuilian is a scammer and a thief, as many people have found out the hard way when he helps himself to your credit card, sells ***, uses the same computer rip off schemes as always. For more info, see RipOffReports dot com, and also BusinessConsumerAlliance dot com.

All is pretty much in keeping with the Armenian way. Just a sad shame.

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