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Guardian Rottweilers - Everything they said and more
We just purchased a puppy (Radar) from Guardian Rottweilers. The experience was amazing. Our puppy is amazing. They did an amazing job taking time to ensure we would properly care for our new rottweiler and were qualified to raise him correctly, but she took tons of time to go over every detail with us. Our puppy has demonstrated the traits they claim to tirelessly breed for....temperament, conformity, intelligence. I would buy another from them now if my wife would let me.
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Could not be happier

My wife and i went out and visited with Alice and her family and her Rottweilers and were in awe of how incredible they were! I do not think i have ever seen more beautiful well behaved animals in my life. her rottweilers interact with the other rescues she has cats, goats, chickens, rabbits even ferrets and peacocks. absolutely incredible! i wanted to do my homework before putting a deposit so we left and took the weekend to think about it. when i read some of the comments on here, i did not think i wanted to buy anything from her, but my wife read everything- the other comments on here and all of the reviews on her facebook page. we own our own business also, a bakery. my wife said over the last 20 years, we have had plenty of customers that simply could not be satisfied and you had to take everything into consideration before making a judgement. at any rate, we went back and put a deposit on a litter she had upcoming. it was difficult waiting but so so worth the wait! we have had our boy for almost 5 years now and everywhere we go we get stopped! and it is not just how beautiful he is. i have owned Rottweilers for 30 years and i have never had a dog that is so smart.he senses what i need before i need it and he has gotten my wife and i though some very tough times. he is my best mate and i cannot imagine what my life was like before him. thankyou Alice for everything you do. this breeds owes a lot to you and we do too.
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Bargersville, Indiana
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Good customer service
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The Untold Truth of Guardian Rottweilers

I have witnessed Guardian Rottweilers "Code of Ethics". Not only does she HARDLY raise the puppies herself, but often times the puppies and the moms are left in a FILTHY box typed rooms that have been *** in, and smeared EVERYWHERE. She may LOAD her money into her dogs and CLAIM she barely has money to be spent on the needs of her own family, BUT if that were true, how would she have ANY money to spend somewhere else? For the majority of the time her children raise these puppies, take the mommy dogs out, feed and water them, etc. Walking around the property, I saw a dead puppy sitting outside the back door of the renovated garage. And I had to ask myself, does this happen often? When visited Guardian Rottweilers, this is what I witnessed. This is the raw, uncut truth that I witnessed, the one time I visited Guardian Rottweilers.
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TRUTH?? PLEASE READ THE COMMENT "HEART BROKEN FRIEND" before taking this at face value.

This comment was left by a troubled teen, and someone who I thought was the best friend of my daughter. I moved her in when she was pregnant and no where to go- long story short, she took advantage and moved in her boyfriend (waaaaay too old to be with a teenager!), sister, sister's baby, several dogs and cats, and then completely destroyed my property- human and animal waste everywhere, drugs...

it was an awful mess. When I finally said enough is enough, they refused to leave so I had to file to get them evicted and this was their response to that.

#1527972

O wow! This is so...sooo sad.

I saw someone's puppy from them so I started reading their page. They state that they are following not only AKC standards but the higher ones as well. How is that possible if your babies are dying on your stairs?

Where is the commitment? Where is the love?

#1447730

I did not take you to court to be vindictive, I did it because when you shouted at me, in my own home, cursing me out, you said it was the only way I would get you to leave. I took in a homeless, pregnant teenage child who was supposed to be the best friend of my daughter since you guys were about 8 years old.

That act of kindness somehow turned into also moving in a "boyfriend" who is a decade older than said pregnant teenage child, who later was arrested, again, sister and sister's baby (with baby daddy also in jail), and an unknown number of dogs and cats! Said dogs and cats urinated and defecated everywhere and destroyed thousands of dollars in personal property. I never asked for a penny while you lived here, and in fact, I paid all your bills and gave money when I could. In return, you helped yourself to everything from my gasoline to my tools.

When I had finally had enough and very politely told you it was not working out, I was cursed at, screamed at and told, and I quote, "if you want me to mother ****ing leave, then you need to mother ****ing go to ****ing court because I know my ****ing rights! I have been here for longer than 2 ****ing weeks and I am receiving mail here, so I am legally a tenant now and you can't just tell me to leave."Even after said outburst, where I was cursed out and shouted at in my own home in front of my kids, I walked away to cool down and let you guys cool down and see if you would do the right thing. 2 weeks+ later is when I went to court to file for eviction. When you left, you left human and animal waste everywhere.

I honestly could not believe that human beings had been living that way. The baby's crib and playpen were full of human and animal waste and old rotten food (I took photos). Nearly every surface was coated and sticky and slimy with urine. And the brand new bed that we had just purchased and was still in plastic when you moved in, literally did not have a single clean spot where there was not human and animal waste- and you were letting a newborn baby sleep there!?!?

I will not go into further detail of everything that I will never be able to get out of my mind... or the smell... but suffice it to say that I am glad you told me to go to court and get you evicted! And then, after one of your dogs dug up a precious stillborn pup, you seriously post something about that too??

My husband, ever the diplomat, has been telling me to let it go and cancel our hearing in April and not to seek damages from you as you guys clearly have much, much bigger issues than us, but crap like this really makes it hard to keep turning the other cheek. I have always tried to help you and your family out, in any way I can- from helping with legal issues to trying to help make sure you and your brother stayed in school. I do not know how it came to this, or if you know how much you are hurting my heart. I do not know what to say other than shame on you, truly.

I will pray for you.I am not sure why you said, "the one time you visited" right after you claimed to know how things are run here- who takes care of dogs and pups, etc., or what chores my kids do and do not have?? But referencing the pup your dog dug up made it very obvious as to who posted this as no one else would have known about that utterly gut wrenching and horrific event. As far as everything you inferred- you have been here since you were a child, so I can only hope this is the work of your boyfriend or one of his minions. Because you know better, I know you do.

You know that our pets, all of them, not just the dogs, eat before we do. You know that each whelping box has a center drain that goes directly out to the septic system; you know that we have a specialized system that uses chlorine tablets to sanitize every time we clean the boxes out; you know they even have cable TV; you know that we take shifts and that someone sits with mom and pups 24-7; and you know that even the chickens, goat, bunnies, peacock, etc., come inside, have a climate controlled facility, indoor plumbing, etc. and that every animal here gets the best vet care money can buy and constant attention from my family, my kids and their friends. You yourself have brought us pregnant cats, orphaned newborn kittens, a litter of mutt pups, and your sister's ferret after you found it in a filthy dirty cage with no food, no water, locked in with another dead ferret- perhaps a sibling or least a best friend dead for who knows how long in the cage with her where she undoubtedly watched it die a slow and horrible death, much like the one she was on her way to.

That ferret was ferrel, almost completely furless, emaciated, and in deplorable heath. We spend months rehabilitating the ferret, took her to Hillview, where they specialize in exotics (and did brain surgery for us on the last ferret we rescued), and then, after she was rehabilitated, we adopted her out. So I really do not know why you would say such horrible things about us, knowing everything you know. Despite everything, I still love you, truly.

And I will continue to pray for you and your family. I still think you have the ability to rise above the hand that life dealt you and if you ever need any help with that, I am here for you.

#1446340

In addition to my review I want to also add the fact that I agree children should have chores and know what it is like to have responsibility, but when is it the child's fault when a sale is not made?

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Helena von gottschalk 08//2008 - 1/17

We purchase Helena from guarden Rottweiler in 08. Best family dog around newborns to grown ups. Will go into work mode at a command. Very Smart dog ,she was unlocking her puppy cage at 9 month, opening latched door at 14 months. Never bit anyone. Not once. But she was a great guard dog. Alice breeds some great dogs. Helena was on paper work, But we new and love her as ROXIE. There dogs are some of the best. I have had American Rottweilers before. Alice's dogs are well care for medically and treated with love. I met her kids and her husband. They care for these pups. I believe in her puppy contract and the interview she did with us before she would sell us a pup. Thanks for the good memories ROXIE.
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Guardian Rottweilers Rottweiler Dog
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Archived emails- Jenna, Alice Part 2

Sorry, it will only post so much at a time- this is Part 2 jenna jones 7/26/13 to me Alice, we just received registration papers in the mail to fill out and pay.....why are we getting this instead of papers that say she is already registered and paid for? This was never told to us. I am very confused and kind of upset at this point, after paying you $1500 for her, we shouldnt have to pay for her registration....I didnt even have to pay for my last rotties registration and I only paid $140 for her! Now if I am wrong about this and its something else or im reading it wrong, my apologies. But if not, this isnt right, and was NEVER told to me or my fiance that WE wouldn't be responsible for paying for Gabby's registration after paying $1500 for her... alice velasquez 7/26/13 to jenna WOW! I am sorry if there was any confusion! But you are free to contact AKC- that is how it ALWAYS works! I have to PAY to register HER LITTER. AKC is a money hungry organization and wants money from EVERYONE! I have to pay to register the litter and THEN pay an EXTRA FEE PER PUPPY to get paperwork for each puppy (the paperwork you received!) If I register her, then she would be REGISTERED TO ME! The new owner must ALWAYS pay to register the dog. EVEN IF I BUY AN ADULT DOG ALREADY REGISTERED WITH AKC, I STILL HAVE TO PAY to get that dog REGISTERED TO ME!! That is simply how it works! Just like I had to pay AKC money to do the pedigrees, just like I had to pay AKC money for DNA testing on parents and just like I had to buy those papers you got in the mail from AKC. I have so truly tried to be patient and *** my tongue as you continuously tell me what you should get for $1500- you are getting LIFETIME BREEDER SUPPORT, a puppy from parents that have had THOUSANDS spent on them for health clearances, training, traveling, showing, etc.; you get a puppy that has been microchipped, vaccinated, dewormed, vetted, and raised in a facility that thus far has nearly half a million dollars invested in it; a puppy that was raised on the absolute best that money can buy- highest quality vet care, premium holistic food, etc. JUST FOR THE BREEDING WITH THE FATHER OF YOUR PUPPY, MARSIO, I spent $5000 transporting Geneva to Germany, $3000 on stud fee, breeding and travel from Germany to Serbia, and just over $1000 on prenatal care, ultrasounds, x-rays, etc. That does not even count the tens of thousands I spent to get Geneva breed worthy- training, showing, international travel, all health clearances, etc. and it does not even take into consideration all the money I spent on all the vet care of the puppies, all the goat milk, premium food, human grade ground beef, ground turkey, farm fresh eggs, whole yogurt, vaccinations, microchips, wormer, etc. I BARELY BREAK EVEN with all my expenses because I DO IT THE RIGHT WAY! I spare NO EXPENSES with any of my dogs, INCLUDING THE RESCUES. I am super happy for you that the first dog you had was wonderful and only $140. My first Rottie was free off the streets and was my best friend as a kid. But when you have a breeder investing as much as I do in puppies, I am sorry, but $1500 is WAY MORE THAN FAIR. That is DIRT CHEAP for a pup of her quality!! Marsio kids in Europe START AT $3000 and that DOES NOT INCLUDE IMPORT OR CUSTOM FEES!! Marsio, your puppy's father, is a SIX FIGURE DOG!! Meaning his owner was offered the US dollar equivalent of $120,000 for him by a breeder in India!! If you were looking for a cheap puppy, then I am sorry, you certainly chose the wrong breeder- and I am certain that there is nothing on my website or in the amount of titles and clearances my dogs have or in the quality of my clientele that would lead you to believe that I had cheap puppies for sale. The reason my husband works 12-16 hours a day is because DESPITE all the money I invest in my dogs, I STILL try my hardest to keep puppies affordable! I want them to go to good, honest, hard working families and not just to breeders, show homes or rich families- yes I have plenty of clientele that fall into the latter category, but I also try my absolute best to cater to blue collar families- families like myself. I am not trying to come across mean or catty, in fact, I am truly trying to carefully chose my words. I simply think that you just do not understand where your money is going or what all I have invested for the small price you paid for your pup. There are LOADS of breeders with puppies as much or MORE than my puppies that DO NOT have the facility I have nor spend the money on all the training, showing, handling, health clearances, working, etc. because they keep the profit for themselves instead of investing in their dogs. They simply have average quality pups and put a bigger price on them so they appear to be in the same league as my dogs and bloodlines. I will be leaving in a couple of weeks for the ADRK KLUBSIEGER, the world's most prestigious Rottweiler Specialty show. Only the absolute best of the best breeders compete with some of the most magnificent Rottweilers ever to grace the earth. The amount of breeders here in the US that can compete at that level are slim to none. And not only am I going to KS, but I will be competing with YOUR DOG's MOM and 2 of her siblings!! Out of all the EXCEPTIONAL dogs I have, Geneva is just absolutely PHENOMENAL and this breeding with Marsio was one of my BEST!! I KNOW what I have, I know my quality and I know my dogs and my bloodlines. I have nothing but confidence in not only my dogs, but how I conduct business. I take a great deal of pride in my dogs and in Guardian Rottweilers. I built Guardian Rottweilers from scratch over a decade ago with just one dog and but a passion and respect for him that has led me to choose only the absolute highest of quality in an attempt maintain his level. I have fought and clawed my way to the top. I have been hosed and taken advantage of by other breeders and customers more times than I can count over the years, and have vowed that 1) that will NEVER be me as I ALWAYS conduct myself in a manor that will bring honor to my children and my Heavenly Father and 2) that I will not let people like that jade me. I still continue to trust and try and help people and I still happily give everything I have to my dogs and my customers. I resent the implications tossed at me by you on more than one occasion and I think that by trying to placate you, you have incorrectly presumed that I somehow lacked conviction. I will happily and whole heartedly continue to help and support you and Gabby and answer any questions that you have now or that may come up along the way; however, I will ask that you give me the same respect that I have always given you and that if you have any doubt at all in my dogs, my quality, my bloodlines, etc. that you do your research. Talk to my vet about any of my dogs or about how I am in there almost every day and about the tens of thousands I spend on my dogs- even when I do not have money for my human expenses, I ALWAYS make sure my dogs are well cared for; talk to other breeders and judges that are reputable and knowledgeable in this breed and ask them about my bloodlines, my quality or about me; look up the dogs in the pedigrees of any of my breeding stock- there are links to everyone on my website traceable back to the original Rottweilers used to establish the breed back in the early 1900's; then take that research and see how other breeders stack up. See if you can find any other breeder in the world with a contract as comprehensive as mine that has the experience and ability to back it up. If you have any other questions about the AKC papers or need any help filling them out, please let me know. I also wanted to check up on Gabby and see how it went at her last vet appointment. As I said before, I am not trying to be argumentative, I just want to convey as best as I can how I feel. I have nothing but love and respect for all the families that own my puppies. I hope that you will read what I wrote with the spirit it was written- not from a place of resentment, but rather me taking pride in what I do and what I have and hoping to show you perspective from my point of view. Sincerely, Alice Jenna jones 7/28/13 to alice It's hard to not take your email EXACTLY how you said it, because I MYSELF have bitten my tounge since we've gotten Gabby. First I was told BY YOU your pet quality dogs were from $1000-$1500, and when we found out AFTER we PAID our NON REFUNDABLE deposit that the cheapest pet quality pup was $1500, I didn't argue or even bring it up. And I seen a backyard breeder who had a whole litter with NO "flaws" like some of your pups had, for a FRACTION of the price and EVERY ONE OF THEM looked better than your pups!! At that time we had already paid your deposit and felt that your dogs were better quality health wise. And didn't get one of the farmers pups because we were afraid of the possibilities of them having health problems later on down the road, and bought into and were fooled by your sales pitch, which you continue to shove down our throats that your dogs do this, and that, and you go here and there and spend all this money, but at the end of the day, none of that matters because we have had nothing but health problems with YOUR PUP since the beginning, who is supposed to be SO EXCEPTIONAL. THEN we come to get the dog, and you don't even have enough respect for your buyer or the pup to see it off, instead you leave your pre teen daughter to collect the $1000 from us who 1) wasn't able to answer questions, & 2) lied to you about what she told us. And then you email us calling US liars because your daughter was untruthful with you about what she did or didn't tell us. And now about the "quality" of your dogs, Gabby has had a urinary tract infection since the day we got her, come to find out she had worms, her ears aren't set properly, and my vet questioned one of the vaccines you gave her, stating that it is only used if the pup has been in an extremely filthy location. I was NOT looking for a "cheap puppy" just one that was WORTH the $1500 we spent! So point being, YOU NEVER ONE TIME told us that WE had to pay for the papers for Gabby, you said, "I will send you her papers in the mail as soon as I get them." Not, "I will send you the APPLICATION for the papers in the mail." And about you taking pride in your customer service, I have seen MANY things online between your website and Facebook where you bash your clients for asking simple questions instead of being a professional adult and taking RESPONSIBILITIES for YOUR mistakes!! And you HAVE been VERY snippy and rude in almost EVERY email you have sent me, instead of educating me RESPECTFULLY and OWNING up to when YOU are WRONG! So I paid $1500 for MY dog that I STILL have to pay to register her. That was NEVER ONCE mentioned to me AT ALL. I am done with Guardian Rottweilers, we won't be needing your services, and I won't be recommending anyone to Guardian Rottweilers. alice velasquez 7/29/13 to jenna I really wish it was not 1:am as I hate to go back and forth like this over e-mail :( Some of your e-mail, I can see your point on, where as some of it has me totally baffled :( Not sure what vaccination your vet was referring to?? The vaccinations my vet gives are STANDARD- DHPP recommended by ALL VETS for PUPPIES- and no vaccinations have ANYTHING to do with sanitary living conditions :( And I am also sorry that she developed a urinary tract infection. But no, she did not have that "ever since you got her" as I have both her check-up from my vet as well as an e-mail from you stating that she started having discharge some time after you got her and after she already had a great check-up with your vet weeks prior. [Her UTI was] an issue which you failed to follow up on at the time [she presented with symptoms] due to finances- and undoubtedly could have caused further complications :( All puppies are born with worms which is why my vet has me on a very expensive and very thorough deworming program and why we run a stool sample on all our pups before they go home as well. We have stayed in great contact with all her littermates and none of them have had any issues at all- health or otherwise. I did indeed apologize for everything on multiple occasions- phone and email. And I can assure you it was not lack of respect! It was not lack of respect for you that made me clear my Friday schedule when you said you were coming on Friday; and it was not lack of respect that made me keep my friend waiting as long as I could. But first, I did not leave you alone with my daughter as my husband was there too. Second, she is not a ***- she is 14 and quite competent. I apologized for not being there when you showed up, profoundly and I apologized for any miscommunications. But most importantly, I have NEVER called you a liar :( And I am sorrowful that you feel that way :( I was between a rock and hard place and thought I could run and pick him up and be back before you got here and it just turned into a fiasco. But I have apologized for that over and over and have even asked you how I could repair those hurt feelings, and I made sure to accurately and thoroughly answer any and all questions you have had. I have NEVER belittled a client and have always treated them with respect. On my website and my facebook post when I vent, it has NEVER been over one of my clients- EVER and I have ALWAYS made time to answer questions EVEN from people that are not my clients and EVEN about breeds other than Rottweilers- the only time I vent is when someone has been rude or disrespectful to me or the breed and EVEN THEN I take the time to explain everything- but AGAIN, I emphasize, I have NEVER posted ANYTHING about ANY OF MY CLIENTS! I am sorry you feel that I have "shoved down your throat" what I do with my dogs/pups. That was never my intension. As I said, I am so very proud of what we do and how far I have come. But it is NOT a sales pitch! You were here! You saw the facility I have- nearly half a million dollars spent on it thus far! Happy to show you all receipts, plus my vet, training, travel, etc. receipts! I do not need a sales pitch because my puppies, my dogs and my bloodlines speak for themselves. A farmer having cheaper, better pups? If he has spent the money on vet bills, health clearances, training, titling, DNA, etc. that I have, NO WAY! Now if he has some cheap dog that he got from the paper and never invested in and bred to another cheap male, then sure, I am certain he can sell his pups at a fraction of the cost and still make a great profit. Bottom line is I sold you a beautiful, quality puppy from EXCEPTIONAL bloodlines that was near perfect for a pet price simply because the ears were set a bit high. I would LOVE to see photos of her now to see how she is doing with that! And I have from the beginning offered to walk you through taping should that become necessary and will even tape them for you. If the farmer had a whole litter of puppies without any faults- I would really like to see that!! An entire litter with no bad bites, no light eyes, no light gums, no tails carried or set incorrectly, no muddy markings, none lacking fill in the zygomatic arch, all muzzles at 40/60 ratio, all front and rear angles correct, all top and bottom lines correct, etc. I would be extremely interested in them- especially their pedigree! Would be awesome to know what lines he bred to produce a fault-free litter! As far as sending you the papers- that is EXACTLY what I did. I APPLIED for and PAID for every single registration paper I mailed. The new owner then registers that puppy to him/her. That is how it has ALWAYS worked. Even if I already had the puppy registered to me, you would still have to pay AKC to get the puppy transferred to you. That is simply how AKC works! I do not really understand where the confusion or accusations are on that. I feel like we got off to a rocky start from the day you picked up Gabby. I have tried so very hard every opportunity I have had since then to try and mend that. I cannot keep up with the phone calls and e-mails I currently get asking for puppies. I have to turn away more clients than I take because I simply do not have time to do interviews every day. Whether or not you recommend Guardian Rottweilers is not why I have continued to repair my relationship with you. I will continue to have more clients than I can serve either way. I have tried to fix things 1) because it is the correct thing to do and 2) because you have one of my puppies and that means a lot to me. If you truly feel that the hurt feelings are too much and you want nothing more to do with me, then I understand that and will ask only that you please keep me updated on Gabby as she is very important to me. However, if there is any chance of us sitting together woman to woman and getting past all of this, I would love to take you out for coffee or dinner or breakfast or whatever and get past this. I have never had such a rough go at a puppy adoption! And whether you believe it or not, it truly eats at me :( I do take a lot of pride in what I do and I do give myself heart and soul to these dogs and puppies. I meant what I said in my last e-mail- I did want you to see where I was coming from and how I felt, but I was not trying to be nasty or shove anything at anyone. No matter what you decide to do, I wish nothing but the best for you and my beautiful Gabby. God Bless, Alice jenna jones 10/23/13 to me Every time Gabby stands up from laying down, she whines like she's in pain, and she walks like she's favoring her back legs. Is this a sign of hip displaysia already at 6 months of age? We are still feeding her Fromm and she doesn't get table scraps. My vet tech told me it is very expensive to have her tested for hip displaysia. Thought I would ask you first. alice velasquez 10/23/13 to jenna Hello Jenna, I have not heard from you in awhile. How are you? At this age, it is more likely to be Panosteitis, or growing pains. http://www.vcahospitals.com/main/pet-health-information/article/animal-health/panosteitis-in-dogs/1051 Growing pains are unfortunately not uncommon in large breed growing puppies and are most common between 5-18 months of age. The intermittent pain can shift from one leg to another or come and go until she finishes growing at 2 years of age. Unfortunately, there is not a whole lot that you can do for the growing pains- just like when kids get it. Both of my sons had growing pains from about 2-4 years of age and when they would wake up crying, I usually massaged their legs or put some ice packs. Of course with large breed dogs, anytime there is joint discomfort, you want to be sure it is not anything serious. I am not sure why your veterinarian indicated that testing for hip dysplasia was expensive? The only thing necessary is to get an x-ray of the hips. It is, however, not as easy to diagnose at this age as the hip joints are not done growing- meaning that luxation or shallow sockets can simply be underdeveloped hips rather than hip dysplasia. I have a page on my website that talks a bit more about hip dysplasia. It is good information to have, but as I said, much more likely to be growing pains at this age. http://www.guardianrottweilers.com/the-rottweiler/health/chd/ How are you and Gabby doing other than the bone discomfort? How is her training coming along? I hope everything is going well for you, and please let me know if there is anything else I can help you with. Best Regards, Alice
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#889068 Review #889068 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Columbia City, Indiana
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Guardian Rottweilers Rottweiler Dog
Reason of review
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Archived Emails between Jenna and Alice

Jenna, I obviously do not have transcripts from our phone conversations, but I do have the emails. Even when I was frustrated by your insinuations, I tried my absolute best to be patient and professional. Now, everyone can read the unbiased version for themselves and pass their own judgement. *NOTE* this is all copy/pasted from all of the emails I have archived and I am very happy to send screen shots, etc. to anyone in the event that the veracity of this is disputed. Also, Jenna, you insist that it was my 12 year old ('***") that greeted you and that my 14 year old was inside the entire time and that they are both liars?? I am sorry you are mistaken, but Tahlia, my daughter who was 12 at the time, had just been in a terrible accident that nearly severed her leg (and nearly took her life) requiring multiple surgeries. That is why Tahlia, my 12 year old, was in the house the whole time :/ It can also be seen clearly in the email exchanges that the resentment from you escalated when you found out you would have to pay $35 to register your puppy to you, the same way your anxiety escalated when I asked you to please take that poor puppy to the vet when you thought she had a UTI (urinary tract infection) and you told me that you did not want to pay for a vet visit after you had just spend $1500 on a puppy just a few weeks prior... All these years, I thought your driving force was wounded pride at the fact I was not here when you came to pick her up, and I felt terrible about that, but I can clearly see now that your animosity is financially motivated, and that makes me both extremely sorrowful and concerned for my little girl. (archived emails between Jenna and Alice) On Jun 7, 2013 11:52 AM, "alice velasquez" wrote: I hope everything is going well with you and your new puppy. I am not sure if you received my last message as I sent it via e-mail from my phone at the emergency room. The little guy I took in did not make it- we did breathing treatments, oxygen tank, IV fluids, everything :( I ended up giving him CPR for about 10 minutes to no avail :( Since then things have been extremely chaotic here in both my human and dog family. I really felt things where left up in the air after our last e-mail exchange and I do not want things left that way. I really want you to be over the moon with your new puppy and satisfied with your service here. I truly hoped when I left to be gone only a few minutes as he was only a few miles away and I also did not realize it was as important to you for me to be there or I would have sent my husband to help Austin or perhaps tried to call my brother. Bottom line is if you felt I let you down, I am most sincerely sorry for that. Please let me know how I can best make it up to you. I will be out of town on a family emergency through Monday, but I will continue to have e-mail access. God Bless, Alice jenna jones 6/8/13 to alice First, I am so sorry to hear about your little one. :( I'm not sure what happened, but I hope he or she didn't suffer, I know that must have been very difficult for you, and never gets any easier. Secondly, we ARE over the moon with our new little Gabby, she is just perfect. :) I must say she reminds me of Diezel with those eyes even tho he is not in her blood line! Lol There is nothing that we want, I just thought you would have realized that since we were dealing with you the whole time, that it should have been important for you to be there to answer any and all questions we had. Also, our bag of dogfood was open and we didn't realize it until we got home, I just want to make sure that was normal, I figured you probably buy large bags and refill the small ones, because there was a lot of crumbs on the top of the food. Anyway, thanks for the email, and I hope you have a good day. Gabby sends her love, she sure has a TON of it to give. :) Jenna alice velasquez 6/8/13 to jenna Thank you so much Jenna. The little boy that did not make it got aspirate pneumonia- a freak accident where he inhaled while he was drinking milk and some of the milk got into his lungs and gave him an infection (pneumonia). We did not realize it until he was very, very ill. We spent all day at the vet- breathing treatment, oxygen, iv antibiotics, etc. but in the end, he just did not make it. My heart was completely broken :( Your food ;) We do not refill the little bags, BUT we do open them and add probiotics to help keep your puppy's belly happy during the stressful transition. That was the brown sprinkles you will see all over the food ;) They are not crumbs. Please do feed her from that bag first before you switch her to another bag of Fromm or a different brand. As I said, I do profoundly apologize that you felt slighted in any way, but do know that I am still here to answer any and all questions you have. Please give Gabby an extra big hug from us!!
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Sorry- it will only post so much at a time- here is part 2

jenna jones

7/26/13

to alice

Alice, we just received registration papers in the mail to fill out and pay.....why are we getting this instead of papers that say she is already registered and paid for? This was never told to us.

I am very confused and kind of upset at this point, after paying you $1500 for her, we shouldnt have to pay for her registration....I didnt even have to pay for my last rotties registration and I only paid $140 for her! Now if I am wrong about this and its something else or im reading it wrong, my apologies. But if not, this isnt right, and was NEVER told to me or my fiance that WE wouldn't be responsible for paying for Gabby's registration after paying $1500 for her...

alice velasquez 7/26/13 to jenna WOW! I am sorry if there was any confusion!

But you are free to contact AKC- that is how it ALWAYS works! I have to PAY to register HER LITTER. AKC is a money hungry organization and wants money from EVERYONE! I have to pay to register the litter and THEN pay an EXTRA FEE PER PUPPY to get paperwork for each puppy (the paperwork you received!) If I register her, then she would be REGISTERED TO ME!

The new owner must ALWAYS pay to register the dog. EVEN IF I BUY AN ADULT DOG ALREADY REGISTERED WITH AKC, I STILL HAVE TO PAY to get that dog REGISTERED TO ME!! That is simply how it works! Just like I had to pay AKC money to do the pedigrees, just like I had to pay AKC money for DNA testing on parents and just like I had to buy those papers you got in the mail from AKC.

I have so truly tried to be patient and *** my tongue as you continuously tell me what you should get for $1500- you are getting LIFETIME BREEDER SUPPORT, a puppy from parents that have had THOUSANDS spent on them for health clearances, training, traveling, showing, etc.; you get a puppy that has been microchipped, vaccinated, dewormed, vetted, and raised in a facility that thus far has nearly half a million dollars invested in it; a puppy that was raised on the absolute best that money can buy- highest quality vet care, premium holistic food, etc. JUST FOR THE BREEDING WITH THE FATHER OF YOUR PUPPY, MARSIO, I spent $5000 transporting Geneva to Germany, $3000 on stud fee, breeding and travel from Germany to Serbia, and just over $1000 on prenatal care, ultrasounds, x-rays, etc. That does not even count the tens of thousands I spent to get Geneva breed worthy- training, showing, international travel, all health clearances, etc. and it does not even take into consideration all the money I spent on all the vet care of the puppies, all the goat milk, premium food, human grade ground beef, ground turkey, farm fresh eggs, whole yogurt, vaccinations, microchips, wormer, etc.

I BARELY BREAK EVEN with all my expenses because I DO IT THE RIGHT WAY! I spare NO EXPENSES with any of my dogs, INCLUDING THE RESCUES. I am super happy for you that the first dog you had was wonderful and only $140. My first Rottie was free off the streets and was my best friend as a kid.

But when you have a breeder investing as much as I do in puppies, I am sorry, but $1500 is WAY MORE THAN FAIR. That is DIRT CHEAP for a pup of her quality!! Marsio kids in Europe START AT $3000 and that DOES NOT INCLUDE IMPORT OR CUSTOM FEES!! Marsio, your puppy's father, is a SIX FIGURE DOG!!

Meaning his owner was offered the US dollar equivalent of $120,000 for him by a breeder in India!! If you were looking for a cheap puppy, then I am sorry, you certainly chose the wrong breeder- and I am certain that there is nothing on my website or in the amount of titles and clearances my dogs have or in the quality of my clientele that would lead you to believe that I had cheap puppies for sale. The reason my husband works 12-16 hours a day is because DESPITE all the money I invest in my dogs, I STILL try my hardest to keep puppies affordable! I want them to go to good, honest, hard working families and not just to breeders, show homes or rich families- yes I have plenty of clientele that fall into the latter category, but I also try my absolute best to cater to blue collar families- families like myself.

I am not trying to come across mean or catty, in fact, I am truly trying to carefully chose my words. I simply think that you just do not understand where your money is going or what all I have invested for the small price you paid for your pup. There are LOADS of breeders with puppies as much or MORE than my puppies that DO NOT have the facility I have nor spend the money on all the training, showing, handling, health clearances, working, etc. because they keep the profit for themselves instead of investing in their dogs.

They simply have average quality pups and put a bigger price on them so they appear to be in the same league as my dogs and bloodlines. I will be leaving in a couple of weeks for the ADRK KLUBSIEGER, the world's most prestigious Rottweiler Specialty show. Only the absolute best of the best breeders compete with some of the most magnificent Rottweilers ever to grace the earth. The amount of breeders here in the US that can compete at that level are slim to none.

And not only am I going to KS, but I will be competing with YOUR DOG's MOM and 2 of her siblings!! Out of all the EXCEPTIONAL dogs I have, Geneva is just absolutely PHENOMENAL and this breeding with Marsio was one of my BEST!! I KNOW what I have, I know my quality and I know my dogs and my bloodlines. I have nothing but confidence in not only my dogs, but how I conduct business.

I take a great deal of pride in my dogs and in Guardian Rottweilers. I built Guardian Rottweilers from scratch over a decade ago with just one dog and but a passion and respect for him that has led me to choose only the absolute highest of quality in an attempt maintain his level. I have fought and clawed my way to the top. I have been hosed and taken advantage of by other breeders and customers more times than I can count over the years, and have vowed that 1) that will NEVER be me as I ALWAYS conduct myself in a manor that will bring honor to my children and my Heavenly Father and 2) that I will not let people like that jade me.

I still continue to trust and try and help people and I still happily give everything I have to my dogs and my customers. I resent the implications tossed at me by you on more than one occasion and I think that by trying to placate you, you have incorrectly presumed that I somehow lacked conviction. I will happily and whole heartedly continue to help and support you and Gabby and answer any questions that you have now or that may come up along the way; however, I will ask that you give me the same respect that I have always given you and that if you have any doubt at all in my dogs, my quality, my bloodlines, etc. that you do your research.

Talk to my vet about any of my dogs or about how I am in there almost every day and about the tens of thousands I spend on my dogs- even when I do not have money for my human expenses, I ALWAYS make sure my dogs are well cared for; talk to other breeders and judges that are reputable and knowledgeable in this breed and ask them about my bloodlines, my quality or about me; look up the dogs in the pedigrees of any of my breeding stock- there are links to everyone on my website traceable back to the original Rottweilers used to establish the breed back in the early 1900's; then take that research and see how other breeders stack up. See if you can find any other breeder in the world with a contract as comprehensive as mine that has the experience and ability to back it up. If you have any other questions about the AKC papers or need any help filling them out, please let me know. I also wanted to check up on Gabby and see how it went at her last vet appointment.

As I said before, I am not trying to be argumentative, I just want to convey as best as I can how I feel. I have nothing but love and respect for all the families that own my puppies. I hope that you will read what I wrote with the spirit it was written- not from a place of resentment, but rather me taking pride in what I do and what I have and hoping to show you perspective from my point of view. Sincerely, Alice Jenna jones 7/28/13 to alice It's hard to not take your email EXACTLY how you said it, because I MYSELF have bitten my tounge since we've gotten Gabby.

First I was told BY YOU your pet quality dogs were from $1000-$1500, and when we found out AFTER we PAID our NON REFUNDABLE deposit that the cheapest pet quality pup was $1500, I didn't argue or even bring it up. And I seen a backyard breeder who had a whole litter with NO "flaws" like some of your pups had, for a FRACTION of the price and EVERY ONE OF THEM looked better than your pups!! At that time we had already paid your deposit and felt that your dogs were better quality health wise. And didn't get one of the farmers pups because we were afraid of the possibilities of them having health problems later on down the road, and bought into and were fooled by your sales pitch, which you continue to shove down our throats that your dogs do this, and that, and you go here and there and spend all this money, but at the end of the day, none of that matters because we have had nothing but health problems with YOUR PUP since the beginning, who is supposed to be SO EXCEPTIONAL.

THEN we come to get the dog, and you don't even have enough respect for your buyer or the pup to see it off, instead you leave your pre teen daughter to collect the $1000 from us who 1) wasn't able to answer questions, & 2) lied to you about what she told us. And then you email us calling US liars because your daughter was untruthful with you about what she did or didn't tell us. And now about the "quality" of your dogs, Gabby has had a urinary tract infection since the day we got her, come to find out she had worms, her ears aren't set properly, and my vet questioned one of the vaccines you gave her, stating that it is only used if the pup has been in an extremely filthy location. I was NOT looking for a "cheap puppy" just one that was WORTH the $1500 we spent!

So point being, YOU NEVER ONE TIME told us that WE had to pay for the papers for Gabby, you said, "I will send you her papers in the mail as soon as I get them." Not, "I will send you the APPLICATION for the papers in the mail." And about you taking pride in your customer service, I have seen MANY things online between your website and Facebook where you bash your clients for asking simple questions instead of being a professional adult and taking RESPONSIBILITIES for YOUR mistakes!! And you HAVE been VERY snippy and rude in almost EVERY email you have sent me, instead of educating me RESPECTFULLY and OWNING up to when YOU are WRONG! So I paid $1500 for MY dog that I STILL have to pay to register her. That was NEVER ONCE mentioned to me AT ALL.

I am done with Guardian Rottweilers, we won't be needing your services, and I won't be recommending anyone to Guardian Rottweilers. alice velasquez 7/29/13 to jenna I really wish it was not 1:am as I hate to go back and forth like this over e-mail :( Some of your e-mail, I can see your point on, where as some of it has me totally baffled :( Not sure what vaccination your vet was referring to?? The vaccinations my vet gives are STANDARD- DHPP recommended by ALL VETS for PUPPIES- and no vaccinations have ANYTHING to do with sanitary living conditions :( And I am also sorry that she developed a urinary tract infection. But no, she did not have that "ever since you got her" as I have both her check-up from my vet as well as an e-mail from you stating that she started having discharge some time after you got her and after she already had a great check-up with your vet weeks prior.

[Her UTI was] an issue which you failed to follow up on at the time [she presented with symptoms] due to finances- and undoubtedly could have caused further complications :( All puppies are born with worms which is why my vet has me on a very expensive and very thorough deworming program and why we run a stool sample on all our pups before they go home as well. We have stayed in great contact with all her littermates and none of them have had any issues at all- health or otherwise. I did indeed apologize for everything on multiple occasions- phone and email. And I can assure you it was not lack of respect!

It was not lack of respect for you that made me clear my Friday schedule when you said you were coming on Friday; and it was not lack of respect that made me keep my friend waiting as long as I could. But first, I did not leave you alone with my daughter as my husband was there too. Second, she is not a ***- she is 14 and quite competent. I apologized for not being there when you showed up, profoundly and I apologized for any miscommunications.

But most importantly, I have NEVER called you a liar :( And I am sorrowful that you feel that way :( I was between a rock and hard place and thought I could run and pick him up and be back before you got here and it just turned into a fiasco. But I have apologized for that over and over and have even asked you how I could repair those hurt feelings, and I made sure to accurately and thoroughly answer any and all questions you have had. I have NEVER belittled a client and have always treated them with respect. On my website and my facebook post when I vent, it has NEVER been over one of my clients- EVER and I have ALWAYS made time to answer questions EVEN from people that are not my clients and EVEN about breeds other than Rottweilers- the only time I vent is when someone has been rude or disrespectful to me or the breed and EVEN THEN I take the time to explain everything- but AGAIN, I emphasize, I have NEVER posted ANYTHING about ANY OF MY CLIENTS!

I am sorry you feel that I have "shoved down your throat" what I do with my dogs/pups. That was never my intension. As I said, I am so very proud of what we do and how far I have come. But it is NOT a sales pitch!

You were here! You saw the facility I have- nearly half a million dollars spent on it thus far! Happy to show you all receipts, plus my vet, training, travel, etc. receipts!

I do not need a sales pitch because my puppies, my dogs and my bloodlines speak for themselves. A farmer having cheaper, better pups? If he has spent the money on vet bills, health clearances, training, titling, DNA, etc. that I have, NO WAY!

Now if he has some cheap dog that he got from the paper and never invested in and bred to another cheap male, then sure, I am certain he can sell his pups at a fraction of the cost and still make a great profit. Bottom line is I sold you a beautiful, quality puppy from EXCEPTIONAL bloodlines that was near perfect for a pet price simply because the ears were set a bit high. I would LOVE to see photos of her now to see how she is doing with that! And I have from the beginning offered to walk you through taping should that become necessary and will even tape them for you.

If the farmer had a whole litter of puppies without any faults- I would really like to see that!! An entire litter with no bad bites, no light eyes, no light gums, no tails carried or set incorrectly, no muddy markings, none lacking fill in the zygomatic arch, all muzzles at 40/60 ratio, all front and rear angles correct, all top and bottom lines correct, etc. I would be extremely interested in them- especially their pedigree! Would be awesome to know what lines he bred to produce a fault-free litter!

As far as sending you the papers- that is EXACTLY what I did. I APPLIED for and PAID for every single registration paper I mailed. The new owner then registers that puppy to him/her. That is how it has ALWAYS worked.

Even if I already had the puppy registered to me, you would still have to pay AKC to get the puppy transferred to you. That is simply how AKC works! I do not really understand where the confusion or accusations are on that. I feel like we got off to a rocky start from the day you picked up Gabby.

I have tried so very hard every opportunity I have had since then to try and mend that. I cannot keep up with the phone calls and e-mails I currently get asking for puppies. I have to turn away more clients than I take because I simply do not have time to do interviews every day. Whether or not you recommend Guardian Rottweilers is not why I have continued to repair my relationship with you.

I will continue to have more clients than I can serve either way. I have tried to fix things 1) because it is the correct thing to do and 2) because you have one of my puppies and that means a lot to me. If you truly feel that the hurt feelings are too much and you want nothing more to do with me, then I understand that and will ask only that you please keep me updated on Gabby as she is very important to me. However, if there is any chance of us sitting together woman to woman and getting past all of this, I would love to take you out for coffee or dinner or breakfast or whatever and get past this.

I have never had such a rough go at a puppy adoption! And whether you believe it or not, it truly eats at me :( I do take a lot of pride in what I do and I do give myself heart and soul to these dogs and puppies. I meant what I said in my last e-mail- I did want you to see where I was coming from and how I felt, but I was not trying to be nasty or shove anything at anyone. No matter what you decide to do, I wish nothing but the best for you and my beautiful Gabby.

God Bless, Alice jenna jones 10/23/13 to me Every time Gabby stands up from laying down, she whines like she's in pain, and she walks like she's favoring her back legs. Is this a sign of hip displaysia already at 6 months of age? We are still feeding her Fromm and she doesn't get table scraps. My vet tech told me it is very expensive to have her tested for hip displaysia.

Thought I would ask you first. alice velasquez 10/23/13 to jenna Hello Jenna, I have not heard from you in awhile. How are you? At this age, it is more likely to be Panosteitis, or growing pains.

http://www.vcahospitals.com/main/pet-health-information/article/animal-health/panosteitis-in-dogs/1051 Growing pains are unfortunately not uncommon in large breed growing puppies and are most common between 5-18 months of age. The intermittent pain can shift from one leg to another or come and go until she finishes growing at 2 years of age. Unfortunately, there is not a whole lot that you can do for the growing pains- just like when kids get it. Both of my sons had growing pains from about 2-4 years of age and when they would wake up crying, I usually massaged their legs or put some ice packs.

Of course with large breed dogs, anytime there is joint discomfort, you want to be sure it is not anything serious. I am not sure why your veterinarian indicated that testing for hip dysplasia was expensive? The only thing necessary is to get an x-ray of the hips. It is, however, not as easy to diagnose at this age as the hip joints are not done growing- meaning that luxation or shallow sockets can simply be underdeveloped hips rather than hip dysplasia.

I have a page on my website that talks a bit more about hip dysplasia. It is good information to have, but as I said, much more likely to be growing pains at this age. http://www.guardianrottweilers.com/the-rottweiler/health/chd/ How are you and Gabby doing other than the bone discomfort? How is her training coming along?

I hope everything is going well for you, and please let me know if there is anything else I can help you with. Best Regards, Alice

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#889062 Review #889062 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Columbia City, Indiana
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Guardian Rottweilers Rottweiler Dog
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Sells pups with bad hips

I purchase a pup from her that was supposed to have the best lines in the world , solid for 25 years. Well guess what , she has bad hips . Now I paid for a show quality IMPORT and she now is spayed. Now she cannot be bred or shown. That was the reason I waited so long to buy her . I was looking for the perfect pup . When I contacted Alice and told her that the pup has bad hips at 9 months old she said right now I have the world on my shoulders , give me 6 months and lets see what I can do for you . Since the pup was imported she didn't want to take any responsibility . I have been waiting patiently and I just went to her to see if we could rectify the situation . She told me she spoke to the breeder in Serbia and he wasnt going to do anything . I contacted the European breeder and he said he would send me another pup , ya like I am gonna trust him again . To boot they wanted me to pay the get the pup here in the states . Just in case you don't know , it cost about 1800.00 to import a pup .. My last email conversation with her was not very promising . Even though she has IMPORTS from the same breeder in Serbia she did not offer him to me . This would solve the problem and everybody is happy but again it is about the money , not being an ethical breeder. She wont get on the phone with me just emails ... Long story short , I told her I want nothing from her , I will never recommend her to anybody EVER ...
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This post regarding the pup with the bad hips was written out of anger and sadness. I want to apologize to Alice as she has never been anything but kind to us.

Our last pup is on the mend, and in no way is a bad reflection on Alice and her breeding program. I received some information from our surgeon that I misunderstood, and I want to take this time to apologize and clear Alice's name and that of Guardian Rottweiler's.

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We bought a pup from her and had the same problem. Our pup was not even one year old and developed the worse case of hip dysplasia they had ever seen.

We eventually had to put him down. She offered us a replacement pup of equal value. We went to pick him up and she was short with us and rushed us through the process. We totally felt as if we were a bother.

Well now this pup that is just two years old has a ruptured cruciate ligament.

Which will require a very expensive surgery to get him hopefully back to baseline, or we just let heal on its own then he would have a permanent limp, with arthritis in the future. I am very disappointed in the entire experience.

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@PissedConsumer1078397

Dear Alice, I am sorry for this post it is not factual. I was angry and just lost my way.

You have always been kind to us.

Our pup is on the mend, and we were able to clear up some confusion.

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Joseph Burgarello, I offered import services and sold you a puppy that I did not breed or produce and that I did not collect the money on. You signed an import contract to that effect as I always make it crystal clear that I did not produce the dog and therefore do not accept the responsibility.

I did, however, promise to try my best with the breeder to see what I could do. Amazingly, even though NO ONE IN EUROPE offers any health guarantees on their puppies, because of my longtime relationship with this breeder, I got him to agree to give you a FREE PUPPY!! You did not get upset until you learned that it was not coming over here for free! You wanted it right now, you did not want to even wait until I was headed over to Europe to see if I could save you some on the import fees, you just wanted me to pay for that out of my own pocket.

As for telling you to give me time-- MY SON WAS IN THE HOSPITAL! HE ENDED UP HAVING A TOTAL OF 6 SURGERIES AND STILL CANNOT WALK CORRECTLY! And when I told you that, you told me that was not your problem!! Even your girlfriend at the time said you were being so mean (she actually used much harder words) and that you were a bully who was used to getting your way and was mad that you did not with me!

THE REAL IRONY!?!?!?! There are DOZENS and DOZENS and DOZENS of bad reviews on the internet about you and your car company and how you have ripped off customers left and right and right out stolen their money without even sending a product in some cases and we are not talking about a few hundred dollars, we are talking about tens of thousands!! In nearly 2 decades of breeding, training and importing, I can count on one hand the number of unsatisfied customers I have had from thousands of transactions. I have dogs that are titled all over the world, dogs that are in service for police and military, search and rescue, service dogs, therapy dogs, more champion, grand champion, balkan champion and International Champion dogs, etc.

Not to mention that it was not a dog from MY BREEDING that produced hip dysplasia. Bottom line, you are mad because you did not want to honor a contract you signed, despite how hypocritical it was from your own business practices, and you not only wanted something for free, but you wanted it delivered to you for free as well. To be honest, you were your own worst enemy.

If you were not such a demanding *** who cursed at me left and right, too Heavenly Father's name in vein, and had absolutely no regard for my son, I would have happily footed the bill even for the import.

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Shady Rottweiler breeder

In June 2013 I got a Rottweiler puppy from Guardian Rottweilers in Bargersville Indiana. I paid $1500 for her. she was sold to us as a pet quality dog. I did a little research before I purchased her and because the breeder seemed to know so much about the breed and have such a passion for the breed, and compared to other breeders, Guardian Rottweilers seemed to be the best way to go. Boy was I wrong! The website was where it all stopped. First of all, when my fiance and I went to pick up our puppy after we had already paid a $500 deposit, Alice who runs Guardian Rottweilers was supposed to be meeting us at her place so that we could pick our puppy up. However, she had left to go get mulch for her house and left her 12-year-old daughter to collect $1,000 from us and hand over the puppy! We had questions that she could not answer. This was very unprofessional to me and showed lack of passion that she pretends to have on her website as she was not there to see the puppy off and make sure its new owner was comfortable and had all their questions answered. Then a week into having our new bundle of joy home, she develops puppy vaginitis! What the heck??! I've never had this happen to a dog and I've had many. She has had other health problems also, like her back legs hurt when she stands up, I'm praying to God it is not hip dysplasia. Now our puppy is 8 months old and her ears wont even lay right, even with taping. They sit like a pit bulls ears. (They stick up.) Also Alice told us that the registration papers would come with our new puppy and was included in the price. Come to find out, we have to pay extra to have her registered to us. All the while, I'm communicating with Alice about my concerns and she is very rude and combative with me in every email. And takes no responsibility for any wrong doing, instead just argues every point. She claims to have the best bred champion bloodline Rottweilers, but produces puppies with loads of health problems. Stay away from Guardian Rottweilers if you want a quality dog. You'll be better off going to an backyard breeder, and you'll save a lot of money!
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We have had similar problems with TJ Rhani "kennels" in Mishawaka, IN. Our dog was diagnosed with severe hip dysplasia at 9 months old.

The vets all told us it was definitally genetic. This owner was also very rude and combative, took no responsibility for any wrong doing, in fact she said it was our fault!

She also argued every point. Be warned to stay away from this place!

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Jenna, I had not been back on here since you first posted you slander back in 2013- quite frankly because your mad ranting was so far from the truth that it was utterly pointless to banter with you, so not sure why you would assume any opinion other than yours must be mine?? The only thing that brought me back here today was a customer that interviewed with me today who was amused by the fact that you thought that everyone who posted must be me.

There is really nothing more to say to your situation other than 1) where are the vet records?? If you had a puppy with any health issues, there should be vet records. Where are they? Because all the conversations I had with you were about you telling me you did not want to spend the money to take her to the vet.

If you are not going to produce health records, vet diagnosis and vet contact information, then anything you continue to post on here is obviously purely inflammatory.

Vicki- What health issues? Are any of them genetic? There is a reason you are under contractual obligation to report ALL health problems to us immediately!

We are a Code Of Ethics breeder, and if there is ever an issue that is potentially genetic, we need to know.

per our contract:

"The Buyer agrees to contact GR immediately if any questions or concerns arise about the dog, such as housing, diet, health or training. The Buyer agrees to keep GR informed of any treatment as it occurs. This provides Guardian Rottweilers with an opportunity to follow up on puppies and gives us important feedback and information on the health or our dogs for future generations."

The fact that you have had "lots of health problems over the last 4 years" and yet I have not heard anything from you about that is appalling!

If there is any validity to what you are saying, then you have put countless other dogs/puppies in jeopardy! And to what end? I have yet to sue someone over breaching that part of the contract, but it is people like you and Jenna that make me seriously consider it! Also, there was not enough puppies in that litter for there to be 4 other puppies with similar health concerns- just sayin :/ And the fact that you know yet another person, making 5 total GR puppy owners you know??

Possible, but plausible??

And with the blanket term "health problems" with no specific issues, either there is something fishy going on or perhaps the "health problems" are not genetic, but rather diet or quality of care? BOTTOM LINE: We have hundreds if not thousands of clients all over the world that either own one of our puppies, or own something we have imported, trained or handled. And from all of those clients, all over the world, one "thinks" her dog "might have" hip dysplasia" yet refuses to take the poor thing to the vet; another has non-specific "health problems" and yet, frustrating, has not communicated them with us, and a used car salesman that purchased a puppy from another breeder yet still wants me to be accountable for it simply because I imported it for him.

That would be like him hiring a truck driver to transport one of his used cars and then trying to sue the truck driver when the car he purchased was not to his satisfaction! We have hundreds and hundreds of satisfied customers with review on Facebook, my website and other professional dog sites. Ourselves and/or our dogs have been published in National Geographic, Total Rottweiler Magazine, All About The Breed, National Sieger (2012), ADRK KS, Breeding Business, and may other local, national and international publications. We have been on Animal Planet, Pet Pals, local and national TV, and our proudest accomplishment, 2013 First Place Kennel and #1 Breeder at the very prestigious ADRK KLUBSIEGER, in Rottweil, Germany.

The largest Rottweiler show IN THE WORLD drawing over 10,000 and showcasing over 500 of the best dogs, breeders, handlers, trainers and judges in the world! Our dogs speak for themselves and need no introduction and our breeding program is UNPARALLELED. I do have a low tolerance for BS and idiots as so accurately pointed out by someone, and perhaps that can ruffle some feathers, but this breed is my FIRST AND ONLY priority, coming second only to my Heavenly Father and my family. If people choose to not come to us because of the negative propaganda, foundationless accusations, and mad ranting of someone who is convinced that everyone is me, then that is their loss.

I know what I have. I know what I have poured my heart and soul into.

I know the profound sacrifices myself and my entire family has made to get where we are, and I know the exceptional quality of my dogs and my breeding program.

#935720

Good breeders make their name on how they handle problems. I would skip guardian.

#1099890
@PissedConsumer935720

Mick, you hit that nail RIGHT on the head! And didn't need to do so by posting a long mad rant. Lol

#1360389
@PissedConsumer935720

Mick,

I'm will you on that one..

#901193

I bought a Rottweiler from Guardian Rottweilers in 2010. Lots of health problems over the past four years.

I know four people who also purchased Rottweilers from the same litter and the issues have been consistent for all of us. A friend of mine also bought a Rottweiler in 2010 (different litter) and has had more serious problems than me. Her dog was diagnosed with a chronic condition and will be on medication all her life. I would not recommend this breeder.

I love my dog but I will NEVER go back to Guardian Rottweilers and have not and will not recommend them.

#880837

You probably shouldn't own dogs, not to mention such a strong-willed & powerful breed as the Rottweiler especially if you believe that going to a backyard breeder could EVER get you a quality pet. I have owned pure-bred Rottweilers for 15+ years, so I comprehend what is involved in their breeding, maintenance, etc.

Perhaps you should educate yourself a bit more before slamming any internationally recognized breeder, as it just makes you appear....

Silly.

#880872
@PissedConsumer880837

And perhaps you should look into the process of registering your dog with the AKC (https://www.akc.org/reg/registeradog.cfm), as it clearly explains who HAS to pay for the process...

Just like humans, dogs and all other pets experience health issues every now & again. Does that mean we aren't good quality either?

#906520
@PissedConsumer880872

Alice again

#880876
@PissedConsumer880837

Because your reply made all the sense in the world! Lol What does my experience with Alice have to do with ANY THING you just said?

Must be her or a family member/friend.

I have a right to tell my experience with Guardian Rottweilers. Go find someone else to harass.

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