Anonymous
map-marker Atlanta, Georgia

No savings a collateral damage

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July 2023, I filed a complaint with BBB (number 2027****) to report freedom forever for the solar panel system they installed in my property, Magnolia - Texas, using Mosaic as a lender for the project, a 30-year loan with initial monthly payments of 133 dollars.

The sales speech was with solar panels, you will end up paying less than the monthly charges in electricity, you will get a 10,000.00 dollars tax return as a stimulus that you will use to pay part of your loan principal to keep your monthly payments, and your house will increase your value with the solar panels.

Last year, I complained to the BBB about the monthly energy cost on my property; the loan and carrier electricity charges were higher than regular energy charges.

What happened next was the case was transferred to BBB California; Forever Freedom called me, I do not know how many times, at very inconvenient times since they are in California, and they asked me for all my electricity bills to evaluate if the estimations of my project were correct. After spending hours on the phone and sending all the documentation, they concluded they would call me back in July this year to re-evaluate the project.

I am here waiting for them.

What happened during this year? I not only did I spend a lot of time chasing energy vendors that provide me with the best buy-back electricity plan, my home insurance has increased by 100% from U$D 2100 to 4200 because insurance companies do not want to insure homes with solar panels, as a matter of fact my property was rejected from the 75% of the insurance companies in the market, the reason: they do not insure homes with solar panels, my house has not increased the value in the market, and nobody wants to buy a house with solar panels, because they cannot afford the extra credit, now that I want to sell the house I have to pay the loan and assume those $37,000.00 as a loss. Regarding the Taxes, ha! I got about 700 dollars return for the solar panels project not the 10.000 dollar as a stimulus, which means this year, the monthly payment of my loan went from 133 dollars to 180 dollars.

I do not want more Freedom Forever calls; I want them to pay my loan and end this relationship.

Making the numbers, this project is ridiculously costly for me, and this is why: my time chasing energy vendors with the best buy-back plans, the increase of my home insurance this year and the years to come, the value of my house did not increase, the difficulties and time of selling the house, they can pay the loan and still will not recognize the collateral damage in dollars.

The minimum I expect is for Freedom Forever to pay the loan. I am done with solar and for customers do not do it!

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User's recommendation: DO NOT BUY SOLAR!

Pablo G Ycd

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| map-marker Temecula, California

Dishonest practices (Be carful! Stay away from Freedom Forever)

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Updated by user May 20, 2024

May-2024: I was told that after 3 days of signing the contract it is not possible to cancel, that it doesn't matter that the service is not installed or working, that if I don't want it I still have to continue paying for the financing of a service that has not been installed and is not being provided to me.

Original review May 20, 2024
Freedom Forever offered to install a solar system for me, with no down payment and 100% financing at 25 years monthly payment. They were very professional and easy-going at this stage, so I signed the contract.

The first important milestone was supposed to be a technical due diligence they performed on my roof to determine if it was suitable for the installation. After they confirmed that the roof was in perfect condition to begin the installation, the contract was binding, and they began the work. Once they started to install the solar panels (only 6 of more than 60 in total they were supposed to install), my house began to experience leaks wherever they had worked. I contacted them and asked to stop the installation until they could repair the damage they had caused, both outside and inside (my ceiling and my walls were damaged and my floors were flooded).

They hired a local company to perform the repairs, but they took a long time to approve the quotes and the scope of the work for this company. Once the company started to repair, Freedom Forever took a long time to pay them, so they took breaks between one repair and another. The company then put a lien on my property because Freedom Forever did not pay the total cost of the repair work they performed on my property. These repairs took more than a year and a half to finish because they were constantly going back and forth with the approval of work scopes and payment delays from Freedom Forever.

Once they finished the repair work, a Freedom Forever representative told me that the best option for us at that point was to replace the roof with a new one because the roof was too old, and that was why the leaks started when they worked on it (this was a completely different statement from what they had told me when I signed the contract and they started the work). Now we have to replace the roof at our own expense, but we don't want to continue with Freedom Forever anymore.

We want to cancel the contract because they have shown no ethical business practices, no financial backing to resolve the payment issue with the local contractor who repaired the damage, and their customer support is worthless. They only take complaints but do nothing to provide a solution.
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Loss:
$85000
Pros:
  • Are very good selling
Cons:
  • Work with no money or budget
  • Do not have structure in fl
  • Too slow to respond

Preferred solution: Full refund

User's recommendation: BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SIGN, BECAUSE NO ONE WILL HELP YOU IN ANY WAY AFTERWARDS

Ronald S Ldf

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| map-marker Temecula, California

LIES AND DECEPTION

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Freedom Forever - LIES AND DECEPTION
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I was promised that I would save a ton of money and FPL would be eliminated. Then I am told by Freedom Forever it's it the contract, they don't guarantee that you will save money.

I went from one electric bill with FPL to 3 electric bills sSunrun, Mosiac and FPL. MY ELECTRIC COSTS DOUBLED. FREEDOM FOREVER SOLAR LLC lied and deceived me. Just to get my signature on their contracts.

IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT GOING SOLAR, STAY AWAY FROM FREEDOM FOREVER SOLAR LLC. NOTHING BUT LIES AND DECEPTION.

WILL NOT SAVE YOU MONEY FREEDOM FOREVER SOLAR LLC IS A VERY BAD COMPANY. SHOULD BE 0 STARS.

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Loss:
$2000
Cons:
  • Lies and deception

Preferred solution: Take their solar panels off my roof and let me go back to one electric bill. FPL

User's recommendation: Stay away from Freedom Forever LLC solar

Jada S Swm

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| map-marker Temecula, California

Freedom Forever is the most unethical company

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Freedom Forever is the most unethical company

This is the most unethical company I have ever dealt with. The install of the panels caused damage to my roof and subsequent leaking and mold growth.

Freedom Forever has refused to take any responsibility for their actions, and they do not stand by their products or services.

Not only do I pay for $100K solar panels, I also still have a power bill close to what I had prior to solar installation. Buyer beware.

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Loss:
$112000
Cons:
  • Negligent
  • Difficult to do business with
  • Sold an oversized system

Preferred solution: Resolution- roof replacement, repair interior damage and mold remediation

User's recommendation: Deal with another solar company and do your homework on whether solar is worth it in your area

Ronald S Ebq

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| map-marker Orlando, Florida

FREEDOM FOREVER SOLAR LLC IS A VERY BAD COMPANY

SHOULD BE 0 STARS. Freedom Forever showed up on my doorstep in March.

That's when the sales reps lies and deception started. First I was told I would save a ton of money and FPL would be eliminated. The solar panels were installed for Sunrun and the system couldn't produce enough, I was now paying 2 electric bills. Sunrun $97.00 and over $80.00 to FPL.

I was told by Freedom Forever all I needed was more panels,BUT forgot to mention it was another contract with Mosiac. Now I'm paying 3 electric bills Sunrun $97.00, Mosiac $60.00, and still over $60.00 to FPL. NOTHING BUT LIES AND DECEPTION. When I complained and asked to cancel all the garbage they sold me I was told by Freedom that it's in their contract, they do not guarantee you will save money.

STAY AWAY FROM FREEDOM FOREVER SOLAR LLC. NOTHING BUT LIES AND DECEPTION. WILL NOT SAVE YOU MONEY.

MY ELECTRIC COSTS DOUBLED. FREEDOM FOREVER SOLAR LLC IS A VERY BAD COMPANY.

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Loss:
$2000
Cons:
  • Lies and deception

Preferred solution: Full refund

User's recommendation: STAY AWAY FROM FREEDOM FOREVER SOLAR LLC

1 comment
Guest

Sad sad this company is scamming hardworking citizens. Short story Solar Mosiac agents came to my home.

I was told if you are approved you will receive a free security system. We only need to do a soft pull on you credit. No purchase is necessary. I said ok.

Approximately 8 to 10 days later I get an alert. Hard pull on credit. I begin to call freedom forever and Solar Mosiac to complain and decline this transaction. No one knew anything except I owe Solar Mosiac $187 for 300 months.

No installation of panels and no one was held accountable.

Citizens please help each other. We need to stop this cooperation.

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| map-marker Salt Lake City, Utah

To get refund for my deposit

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I didnt have much involvement with this company. The rep.

Person told us that the initial deposit is refundable but after several days they deny it and saying only three days.

A very modern highway robbery. I wonder how they are still in business while not a single person is happy with them.

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To get refund for my deposit

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Just signed up and changed my mind due to terrible reviews I cancelled the order a week later but they dont want to refund me for the deposit. They told me that I had only 3 days to cancel while before that they told me that is fully refundable with no time limit.

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User's recommendation: Study the background first and don’t rush into the contract with them rapidly and pay no deposit.

Karen D Sph

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| map-marker Naples, Florida

Horrendous, STAY AWAY!!!!

DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY!!! Install August of 2022 and took until Feb of 2023 to get permission to operate.

Now, 8 months later, I've had a panel out for 3 months and have had TWO appointments scheduled for repair. I've taken 2 days off work and BOTH times, no call, no show. I've called customer service at least 15 times over the last 2 months, spoked to 2 supervisors and no one calls back. This is the WORST customer service I have ever experienced.

Large company that doesn't give a crap about is customers after install. I can't say enough about what a terrible experience this has been and I've wasted 2 days off from work and probably another full day of my time making phone calls to them. I even wrote a negative review for the local office and the canned response was "we'd like to turn you experience into a 5 star review, someone will reach out within 72 hrs".

Think that ever happened??? What a joke, I would never recommend them to anyone!!

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User's recommendation: Please heed all the negative reviews!!!!

Chris F Eda

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Stay Far Away

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Freedom Forever installed panels on my detached garage last year. Their electrical conduit was against code, and a safety hazard as it could be ripped out of the garage wall, but they blew me off and never corrected the issue when I tried to get into contact with them repeatedly.

Worse issues arose when I listed my home, had a buyer and in the home inspection report, it was shown that the garage roof was buckling under the weight of the panels, as evidently it was not structurally sound enough to support as many panels as they put on. Freedom Forever again tried to blow me off, and after two weeks, we finally got through to a manager, and there was zero open case about this huge issue, and upon reading the report, tried to say they were not going to help resolve the issue as nothing was wrong with the main residences roof, though this has nothing to do with the situation as the panels are on the detached garage. Them not knowing this despite their records, and how many times it was reiterated on the phone is concerning in itself. Their handling of the situation may cause the deal to go through, has caused immense structural damage to my home, and caused my PTSD and mental health issues from the Army to act up.

Freedom Forever has caused me so much damage physically, economically, emotionally and otherwise, and their refusal to take any accountability has lead me to no choice but legal action. Avoid this company at any and all costs!

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Loss:
$450000

Preferred solution: Full refund

User's recommendation: Avoid like the plague!

Anonymous
map-marker San Antonio, Texas

Inspection

I'm still waiting on someone to do an inspection on my solar panels, which leads me to pay for the Electricity from our electric company and mosaic. I talked to a representative from Mosaic & was told they are unable to do anything unless Freedom Forever contacts them directly. I've been on hold for 2 hours to talk with customer service with Freedom forever.

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User's recommendation: Freedom forever was very quick to put on the solar, it’s the electric comp. That’s dragging their feet. Expect to make 2 payments. Electric co & Mosaic.

Asrith C

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| map-marker Temecula, California

Inspection

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No response from customer service, I would give zero as review if there is a option zero. This company is a total waste. Dont ever sign up with this company

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Loss:
$40000
Pros:
  • No pros
Cons:
  • Worst customer service

Preferred solution: Deliver product or service ordered

Anonymous
map-marker San Antonio, Texas

Do not have Solar and have beed npaying the Loan company and the Lifgt company for 4 months

NO SOLAR SERVICE. WE ARE SENIOR CITIZENS BOTH ON SSI BENEFITS AND ARE HAVING TO PAY CPS AND TODAY SERVED WITH LETTER FROM A DEBT COLLECTOR FOR OVERDUE PAYMENT OF $288.00.

SOLAR PANELS ARE IN PLACE BUT NOT TURNED ON. FINANCING WENT THRU A YEAR AGO AND TOOK OVER 6 MONTHS TO INSTALL. MY CREDIT SCORE IS BEING AFFECTED BY FREEDOM. WE CAN'T AFFORD TWO BILLS FOR LIGHT AND FREEDOM DOES NOT COMPLY??

WE CALL BUT NO DEFINITE. DATE TO TURN ON SOLAR. FREEDOM QUICK TO FINANCE AND COLLECT AND WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AS OLDER SENIORS. NOT SATISFIED AND WILL NOT RECOMMEND FREEDOM AT ALL!!

VERY UNSATISFIED WITH THE SERVICE THAT WE FELT CONFIDENT WE WERE GETTING.

WE CALLED CPS AND THEY CONFIRMED IT'S IN THE HANDS OF FREEDOM(MOSAIC)- CAN ANYONE HELP OR ADVISE?? VERY UNSATISFIED CUSTOMER...D

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What are you doing as seniors investing in solar panels if you are on limited income? Aren’t you under 65 if collecting SSI?

Khin Mawng Z

Iam the cucstomer of freedom forever

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Iam the cucstomer of freedom forever

When I contact to Dallas Fortworth area

they would never answer.

I live in 4618 Lawler rd garland tx 75042

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Loss:
$471
Pros:
  • Fast instillation process
Cons:
  • Few services provided

Preferred solution: I would like to get a replace inverter quickly and I need to get back my electric bill.

User's recommendation: Please respect customer

Emmalise Rph

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Customer service

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The worst company I have ever worked with in my life.. they do not respond to phone calls, they do not return calls and they broke almost a100 roof tiles.

They failed to install the creature guard so they had to come back out. They would show up without an appointment and they wouldnt show up for appointments.I received a bill but Im still not on the solar grid:

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User's recommendation: Not at all

2 comments
Guest

I have a bill from Mosaic and Freedom Forever hasn't installed ANYTHING on our roof. Contract was signed 13 months ago. We will not let them on our roof now.

Pablo G Ycd
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Same here, I am paying monthly payment with no system installed, no service provided almost 2 years ago! STAY AWAY FROM FREEDOM FOREVER

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