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Verified Reviewer | Cincinnati, OhioCORDELL & CORDELL MONEY SCAM
It has been addressed by multiple lawyers I have spoken with since Cordell & Cordell withdrew due to unpaid funds that I have been over charged. Every last one of the lawyers that have reviewed my case. Cordell & Cordell is truly a money scam for poor representation in the court room.
- Excessive billing
- Price gouging
Preferred solution: Full refund
Cordell And Cordell Child Support Review
Bait and switch lawyer, Price gougers, no benefit whatsoever
My story at Cordell and Cordell in Sacramento, CA, began very promising as I was looking for my 3rd attorney to help me with my rather simple case (no children, no house involved). This very polished and well-spoken attorney led me to believe that he would represent me. When I agreed to Cordell and Cordell to represent me, I received email and calls from a *** underattorney (Robert Aguilar) who said he would be representing me!?
Needless to say it was horrible. Charged me so much money and gave me horrible financial advice. I am so horrified by what divorce attorneys get away with and how much price gouging is involved.
Simply put: DON'T GET MARRIED and DON'T HAVE CHILDREN. The government will *** financially for years as the court system and lawyers suck the financial blood out of you until there is nothing left.
Don't go with Cordell and Cordell. They are scam artists. Perhaps all attorneys are scam artists. I am leaning towards that conclusion.
Preferred solution: Full refund
Other Product Review
Poor value for the money. Run for cover from this firm.
RIPPED OFF BY CORDELL & CORDELL PC
I hired these rip-off artists for a Divorce in October of 2012. After I got tired of all of the Mistakes and lies from Sarah Wilde, I complained to there complaint department and was put in touch with another one of their (so called) Attorneys, Michelle Hughes. At first (well the first 30 day) she was good. She knew just what lies to tell me to make me believe she cared about my case. Then the same old mistakes started happening again with Michelle Hughes as did with Sarah Wilde. (spelling, grammar, wrong dates) I do not believe there was one Settlement Agreement that they made up that did not have to be redone at least once. (sometimes twice) In less than nine (9) months and $25,000.00 they withdrew from my case in early July of 2013. Five (5) months later on 11/25/13 the opposing counsel filed a Memorandum of Understanding with Michelle's signature on it and dated 05/13/13 (not filed with the courts) that I NEVER AGREED TO or even seen until two (2) months after they withdrew from my case!! No where in their case notes (client portal) does it say anything about that Memorandum of Understanding! Beware of this whole Law Firm. Their Client care department is just as bad as their attorneys are. Here is a few parts of some emails that I sent to their client care department with parts of emails that was sent to me from Michelle Hughes and parts from their client care department to me.
Re: I need some Help Please
Jun 7, 2013
To: Kathy Edson
I am sorry Kathy but since I have no money and XXXX is not paying her back child support or any of her part of the bills that she owes me I can not afford a decent phone. So it is hard to call you. I did get your last Email and this is all it said.
Good Afternoon Mr. XXXX,
My name is Kathy and I work in the client care department with Stacey. I tried to call you earlier but there was no answer and I was unable to leave a message. I understand you have been in contact with Stacey regarding some concerns. I have reviewed the information you have provided to Stacey and would like to speak to you further to see what we may be able to do to alleviate your concerns. If you would please give me a call at your convenience, I would appreciate it. All my contact information is listed below. Thank you.
Sincerely:
Kathy Edson
Client Care Supervisor
Cordell Practice Management Group
11737 Administration Drive Suite 100, St. Louis, MO 63146
Direct (314) 587-**** | Fax (314) 587-****
There is NO information on what we or Cordell and Cordell can do for me. Please include info on the next email please.
I am busy hiding my truck so it does not get Repossessed since Cordell and Cordell can not get XXXX to pay any of the back pay that the Courts says that she owes me! I will try to call Stacey Monday if my cheap phone works. I know XXXX has a nice working phone.(Must be nice) even though I am the Victim here not her! She walked out on the Boys and I and stopped paying on anything. NOT the other way around! But no Cordell and Cordell did not seem to get the Courts to see it the way that it really happened they let her Attorney twist it all around.
Sent from Me
From: Kathy Edson
To: 'Me
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 6:30 AM
Subject: RE: I need some Help Please
Good Morning Mr. XXXX
I Have received your email and have received the information from Stacey also. I send you an email yesterday but am unsure if you received it or not. I have information from your attorney on the issues and wanted to talk to you about what we can do to resolve those concerns for you. I do have a meeting scheduled today from 11 to noon that I cannot reschedule so unfortunately I will not be at my desk around 11:30 today. The rest of my day is open if there is another time you can give me a call. Please let me know. I look forward to speaking with you so we may work on a resolution for your concerns.
Sincerely,
Kathy Edson
Client Care Supervisor
Cordell Practice Management Group
11737 Administration Drive Suite 100, St. Louis, MO 63146
Direct (314) 587-**** | Fax (314) 587-****
Email kedson@***.com
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 5:08 PM
To: Kathy Edson
From: Me
Subject: Fw: I need some Help Please
Hello Kathy.
I sent this to Stacey to see what could be fixed, done or taken care of. I do not know if she forwarded it to you or not so here it is. I have a "pay as you go" (Junk) phone now, That does not work well. I will try to call you Friday around 11:30 am.
Most of it is simple stuff. The harder things is that I am tired of paying 2 and 3 times to get something done correctly. As in the Settlement Document and the Parenting Plan. As you can see below the simple mistakes that were made.
The main reason the Inferno camper got repossessed is that I Nor Cordell and Cordell can get XXXX to let loose of the money that she owes me. If I would have had the back Child support I would not have lost the camper. Also Michelle was under the impression that XXXX had been helping me on the bills for the Boys. Not sure HOW because I have not been able to talk or send notes to XXXX since November of last year. And XXXX's Attorney seems to know a lot more about what can and can't be done, Also how to be manipulative in the court system and get away with it.
To: Stacey Carlton ;
From Me
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 1:17 PM
Subject: I need some Help Please
Hello Stacey.
I really really need your help. I am amazed at all of the mistakes in the Settlement Document that Michelle has written up, and I am very tired of paying Cordell and Cordell 2 and 3 times to get thing corrected. Would you and maybe one of the higher up please just read over it and see what you think? Please. With that Settlement Document the way it reads, I do not know what's right or wrong. Here are a few of the mistakes.
1: XXXX and I was married on June 5th not the 4th.
2: This is on XXXX's side. (8) $34,312.00 of WIFE’s XXXX and XXXX 401K with the remaining $25,000 to be awarded to HUSBAND. Said account to be divided via Qualified Domestic Relations Order;
And this is on my side.
(12) $25,000 of WIFE’s XXXX and XXXX 401K with the remaining $34,312 to be awarded to HUSBAND. Said account to be divided via Qualified Domestic Relations Order;
Also Neither one of those says who is paying the penalties for the early withdraw of the money. I hope XXXX is.
3: This Inferno Camper was Repossessed last week. I have told Michelle that I am unemployed and no way can I afford all of this stuff. But she kept saying this is what the Judge has decided. I thought feeding my Boys and keeping the lights, water and Gas turned on was way more important that a camper that I could not afford. and told Michelle we had to sell it ALL many times even at the court house on May 13th. Also what about these 2 paragraphs later in the Document concerning the repossessed camper: Provisions for Failure to Perform Obligations.
and: Modification and Approval
The terms of this Agreement shall not be subject to modification or change, regardless of the relative circumstances of the parties except as specifically set forth in the Agreement.
Sorry, Here is what is written in the document:
(4) 2011 KZ Inferno 3410 Camper, and any debt associated with the camper. HUSBAND agrees to refinance vehicle within one-hundred twenty days (120) days after this Court enters a Decree of Dissolution of Marriage. WIFE agrees to execute to gift affidavit, if necessary to remove her name from the camper title;
4: This one just has the wrong loan company on it, It should be Chase and not Vantage :(9) Vantage Credit Union Account XXX-9488 associated with the Ford F350 automobile loan;
5: There is an order of Protection against me so I can not talk to or go near XXXX. So how am I to deliver this stuff to her? That sounds like a set up to get me in trouble with the courts:
(c) Each Party shall herewith deliver to the other all property or documents evidencing ownership of property which, by the terms of this Agreement, is to remain or become the property of the other.
Now for the Parenting plan.
This is Part of an Email that I received from Michelle.
Moving forward, I want to talk to you about the bills. With regard to the house bills (utilities and mortgage) those you can’t receive payment for since you lived in the house. I know it seems unfair, but if you had left the house and rented an apartment or something you wouldn’t receive reimbursement for those expenses. However, with regard to expenses for the children, you SHOULD receive reimbursement. I have some of the checks that you wrote to cover some of the expenses. Can you write me a list of the expenses you’ve paid since separation for the children? Just type it up and email it to me. I’ll forward that to her attorney and ask for payment. Your parenting plan requires that XXXX pay half. I was not aware that you didn’t request those payments from XXXX directly. Moving forward, for all future expenses, I recommend that you send a copy of the invoice for each bill related to the children (medical or school) to XXXX and ask for reimbursement. Just make it short and simple. While the order of protection is pending, I recommend that you have the boys deliver the invoice to her when she visits with them
Michelle has never told me what bills I could submit like what about the Boy's Cell phone bills, School lunches, Cable TV (Which They each have in there own rooms), Internet (Which they both use A lot), Clothing, Gifts, and what about the Personal Property taxes for 2012? XXXX's Vehicle is on that bill and she owned part of all of that Last year.
This one really get me. Michelle wrote " I was not aware that you didn’t request those payments from XXXX directly. "
With the EX-parte How in the world was I going to request those payments. I went to jail for 12 hours just for a short text that said (I hope your new year is going well because ours is our worst one yet. and We all three still love you.)
Also this part of the same Email : Moving forward, for all future expenses, I recommend that you send a copy of the invoice for each bill related to the children (medical or school) to XXXX and ask for reimbursement. Just make it short and simple. While the order of protection is pending, I recommend that you have the boys deliver the invoice to her when she visits with them.
Now in the Parenting plan Document Michelle writes this:
9. Children Not Involved In Court or Financial Communications: The parties shall not talk about adult issues, parenting matters, financial issues, and other Court-related topics, when the children are present. Such discussions shall not be had during custody exchanges of the children or during telephone visits. The children shall not be used to carry such messages or written communication, or child support payments, between the parents.
Well Stacey I also did not receive a copy of Exhibit 1, 2, or 3. So how am I to agree on them when I do not know what they say?
I am Sorry but just one more from another Email that Michelle sent me :
With regard to the requested changes, I kindly ask that you reconsider them. They really are minor changes and there are only two. The first change is to ensure that you share joint legal custody. I was hoping to sneak the language by her attorney that you could make final decisions, but she caught it. You agreed to joint legal and the terminology that allows you to make final decisions is really a SOLE legal standard. Also, with regard to the QDRO change, this still has the same effect as the language that I proposed. I spoke with the Plan Administrator and she actually said that they would prefer that language as it makes it easier for them to distribute the funds to you. We can be stubborn and keep my original language, but it might ultimately delay the release of the funds to you.
With regard to the attorney’s fees, XXXX’s attorney filed just before court a motion for fees. She was asking that you pay XXXX’s fees. The Judge denied the motion.
Please let me know once you have the list of all payments for the children together so that I can forward that to her attorney. Additionally, please let me know if you’ve reconsidered the two minor changes to the settlement documents.
THE END
So what do you guys and gals think about the fine people from Cordell $ Cordell Law Firm now?
Review in Lawyers category from Graham, Texas
Their motto " we level the playing Field"
My ex husband, hired Cordell to represent him when I brought him back to court for failure to comply with our PSA. Cordell law claims they care about the father and children, yet this lawyer did not care about my children.
The motion filed by their firm was just the opposite, she tried to get my ex out of paying any child support, alimony or for college. All that was agreed on in our PSA. She dragged out the motion, requesting discovery and wasting my time. I represented myself, it was over 8 months before the case was heard, I won, taking down Cordell Law, without a lawyer....my advise to any woman out there , don't waste your money hiring an attorney if your ex hires Cordell Law, Represent yourself and stand behind the truth.
They should be leveled, A sexist firm, caring nothing about the welfare of children of divorce. they stand on lies, twisted half truths and have no problem committing perjury to try to win.
The attorney hired by my ex, cared nothing about facts, truth or ethics. She should not be allowed to practice law.
CORDELL - NEVER SEEK HELP FROM THEM
Well! looks like they further tricked me.
They are NOT only fraudulent they are perfect liars as well.
They did not send me the refund and instead they called me to completely get rid of this post which I cannot, so they won't refund any money. THE ISSUE IS NOT...
The firm Cordell & Cordell refunded part of my money and I don't hold them bad anymore
What were they doing while they were charging me $300/hr?
They help Dads? hilarious, don't be trapped by their slogan. They actually rip off innocent people. I was reluctant to hire them in first place.
I had no choice but to hire them; however they showed their weakness from the get go. First I was charge 170 for initial consultation. Then the invoices started coming and accumulating to $3000.00 when my original Cordell's attorney (Mr A.P.) abandoned my case and was picked up by another new Cordell's attorney (E.J.) who started billing me what I was already billed for by my previous Atty from Cordell. Then the new attorney said, "you case is in another county so it is better if I hire an attorney from that county".
When I complained, she picked up vigor to help me. Sending me the email attached.
- Price gouging
- Still 3mos understanding my case
- Attorneys are they
Preferred solution: Price reduction
Serious over billing
They charged me over 3000 in just days to get ready for a temporary hearing to reduce child support due to having surgery and job loss, the client portal did not show all the billing until I received my credit card, I fired them and was charged another 1200, this firm is ridiculous, for a simple child support hearing, they had several "strategy meetings involving other attorneys, of course all of them billing top dollar, Do not use them!!!!!!!! I will be going to court by myself after spending close to 4000 dollars, I should have read their reviews before hiring, I hope this review and others will save someone else the money and aggravation .
- Double billing
- Price gouging
- Excessive billing
Cordell And Cordell Family Law Services Review
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Resolved: Consumer Protection Bureau, Judicial Review Board
I have worked closely with the client relations department at the Cordell and Cordell law firm; as a result we have come to an amicable agreement thus resolving any outstanding issues surrounding the content of this post. It is my pleasure to mark this post as resolved.
- Inexperience
- Price gouging
- Bill padding
Preferred solution: Full refund
Unethical Company
I know somebody that is using this company and they are the worst company for ethics. I would advise any father to do research before going to a attorney that gets their work by claiming they are for fathers.
The law is the law and there is no way around it. The fathers that go to this company because they advertise on sport events is the intelligence of most men without research them first. It is the fathers own fault if they were screwed by this company.
Fathers do your research before using this company, do not get sucked in my their advertising.
Stay away the don't know nothing, they are thiefs not attonrnyes
- Double billing
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Yeah , I hear you ! My divorce with Cordell Cordell with Cincinnati cost me over 30,000 and I got shafted.
Don't hire Chad Koop , he made an oral agreement with ex's attorney and my ex never paid me what she owed me . Went back to him a month later and he wanted a retainer fee to go after her what she owed me. Stay away from Cordell and from Koop wherever he may be . I even got on Dads divorce and played the " ask attorney game" and explained my situation with the Cordell lawyer and she said talk to our lawyers in Cincy and go after him ...
Little did they know ..
They are a huge scam and idiots . Good luck
Congradulations! You too have been CORDELLED!
WAKE UP AMERICA!
CORDELL & CORDELL is the 'Taliban' for divorced fathers! Run Like The Wind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!