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I looked into being a potential seller with this company as a starting point to start reviewing the validity of the product. Wow.

The sell focus is huge. Unfortunately when products are pushed by people who are primarily aiming to make a commission - you need to always question what they are telling you.

This product in my opinion is over priced and there are better produc6s on the market using similar ingredients. I'll be staying clear of this product.

Reason of review: Pricing issue.

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So you looked into being a seller without the expectation of making money???? I guess you never shop at the cosmetics counter at the dept stores either, because they are on commission as well.

R+F is THE #1selling skincare brand in the US. That is a FACT. You donโ€™t achieve #1status without delivering results.

As far as the price point, it is all relative to how much you want to invest in your appearance. R+F is the same if not less expensive than dept store brands(Clinique and Lancรดme)

It sounds like you had a bad experience with your consultant, and while you are clearly entitled to your opinion, I am stating FACTS

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I'm always amused by R&F facts, but since you're in the mood for them, here are some which might sting...

I really don't even know where to begin.

1.Before and after photos are done with different lighting, different angles and at times photoshopped.

That's not being held accountable, that's deceptive.And yes, that's trying to fool someone.

2.

Are you aware that the products you peddle are no different than over the counter stuff at a fraction of the price? You are not selling and/or using prescription strength.

That's not exactly life changing. That's called ripping people off. 3. It's not your business.

Its someone else's. You're a salesperson working on a *** commission for a company that makes most of its sales from consultants that sell it. Yes, if all 180,000 consultants bought only a year supply of lash boost for $150, the company makes 180 million bucks, and I know you may not believe it but 99% of the business owning R&F consultants make under $10,000 for the year! Sounds good, right?

It's genius on the owners part, no high end store distribution fees, no insurance, brick and motar cost, not even a payroll really. Sorry, it will never be your business. Your own income disclosure states how little over 95% of consultants make. Fact!

Factor in the little income with the amount of product you buy, the website fee, your "free" samples consultants buy to give away and any trips that you have to pay for, your left withnone. But since it's "your business" please inform me of the turnover rate. Kindly supply your source when citing that information. 4.Your whole company is built on recruitment, which is why the company relies on the google Rodan and Fields scripts...btw way more people use those scripts than they will let on to.

They're real and I've personally seen them verbatim on multiple people's Facebook page. I can understand why you wouldn't want to admit it, but don't lie. It makes you even less credible than you already are being a part of... 5.On the subject of MLMs.

Are you aware of where MLM's came from? Probably not. You were likely recruited by someone who just told you about the amazing opportunity. MLMs come from a long line of practices which are now illegal and you guessed it, MLM's will be outlawed.

Pretty evident with the major FTC ruling against Herbalife. MLMs have origins in Ponzi schemes. From there they morphed into chain letters, direct sales and pyramid schemes. That's some family to be associated with.

6. The vast majority have not attended medical school or business school. Therefore you have zero credibility and zero clue on the adverse effects and unethical violations many of your beloved consultants commit routinely. 7.

You don't win a Lexus. It's leased in your name and under your insurance. Two things, he monthly lease approximately $600-$700 a month is taken straight from your downlines sales. Fail to make the month quota and your stuck with the bill.

Which makes perfect sense why some would resort to deception to avoid fronting the bill. Secondly, you and your lesased Lexus are used as bait to recruit more people. Still think it's your own business? 8.

R&f is not the number one skincare. Maybe according to Euromonitor which any business can fund their own study that yields very specific results. In other words, you buy the results you want. Euromonitor is associated with many MLM.

You don't see any other major company cite Euromonitor. 9. You are not being honest with yourself (if you really believe what your saying) and others which is disturbing because most of your early recruits are friends and family. Hopefully they're not reading the truth about how they're being used by you to elevate yourself in the pyramid shaped business you're in.

10. Recap- it's not your own business. You don't own anything except the bills and the burden of pushing this stuff on others while you try to recruit.The products are average at a premium price, which I would define as a ripoff.Sleep tight! Ps- it's been brought up in the previous conversation regarding the validity of Euromonitor.

My sources tell me it's not very scientific (at least the R&F study that claims them to be number 1) from my understanding studies can be funded to support a claim. Data is easily manipulated- also found that google searches can be manipulated to hide negative info on a company for a price. Not saying google is complicit but searches can be skewed. Similar to how herbal life bought out all the tickets for Betting on Zero.

So you had sold out shows with zero audience. It's very telling about the lengths some will go to to bury info from the public.MLM also has a very rich and powerful lobbying group in DC to make sure companies can stay a step ahead of any progressive laws.That's where a lot of this money goes - not to the consultants who burned every bridge to reach a goal that isn't attainable.

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Did you have a bad experience? Or any experience with this business?

Because I find your information outdated and in most cases, completely false or not applicable. So, for someone who is trying to appear like youโ€™ve done your homework, you are really just presenting your opinion, which is sadly uninformed.

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Care to prove me wrong with actual information instead of just stating an opinion? Which info is outdated and which is not applicable?

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Here are some sources you might want to check out, which filled with information. See, I'll even make it easy for your to do your homework...

Please google Rodan and Field scripts.You will the Deceptive ways to "recruit" people to sell it, not to use it.

Straight from a site.

"In advance of calling to telling someone in your warm market about your new business:Identify several reasons why you think they could help you in your business:Savvy business woman with a lot of contacts

Fun out going person with tons of friends Church, community, job This will validate why you thought of them so you could genuinely say, Id love to have your opinion, I need your feedback.A) Hey, Susan, whatcha doing its Donna.Do you have a couple of minutes?

Yes ~ Great!

I just want to call and tell you about my new business. Im SO excited. Pause and wait for her to ask you. What new business?

Everyone will ask. Thanks for asking, I want everyone who knows and loves me to know what Im doing. Ive partnered with Dr. Katie Rodan and Dr.

Kathy Fields who created Proactiv. They revolutionized the treatment of acne which made them billionaires. They have now turned their attention to the 3 Billion $ Aging skincare market. If were breathing, were aging.

Heres why I am calling you. Susan, you are one of the savviest, well connected people I know. You probably have 2,000 friends on Facebook! All I want to do is to grab coffee with you, catch up and tell you what Im doing.

I think you could be a huge connector for me. You never know when somebody might say to you. Ive gotta go back to work. I need to do somethingpart time to help out.

Im getting ready to retire and I dont know how Im going to pay the bills Susan, Im only looking for people who are looking for me. And God knows, in this economy, just about everybody is stretched. Set appointment to meet by saying, What does your week look like next week? Surely we could grab coffee or a glass of wine after work.

Appointment set GREAT! Meanwhile, Im going to send you a 3 minute video of The Doctors. I cant wait to see you, Susan, its been way too long! Bring your iPad with pictures.

(personalize the appointment in a chatty way. - there is way more but it sounds an awful like you are fishing for sellers. Where do any of these scripts discuss the actual product knowledge. Not one goes over the ingredients, proper usage, side effects etc...

instead its recruit! Income disclosure reveals that you don't make money in this business. Correction, most people don't, those that are really good at manipulating others to buy in seem to be the company's prized possessions. Not opinion, dear.

Straight from your "team leaders" Would any legit business need this sort of language? Also check out - Dr. Jon Taylor - MLM Truth - too expert on MLMs Robert Fitzpatrick - I recommend viewing the art of charm podcast. John Oliver's MLM special (YouTube it) iCCA Global Petition Against MLM (Google It) See the Better Business Bureau - 84% negative rating.

The list goes on.

If you still think I'm misinformed, kindly refute with evidence. Until the, you have some homework to do.

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Another fantastic article...

http://ethanvanderbuilt.com/2017/10/20/rodan-fields-scam-yes-opinion/

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No, Sally Fax post is right on and you are the uneducated & uninformed hustler trying to bake a few bucks off of friends and family who feel sorry for you and buy something. Consultants have a few good months because of this and then they believe they are entrepreneurs.

Meanwhile your friends are starting to avoid you. Oh well, why don't you go get you some education and a real job.

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No, SFax is totally right!

Might ask you how much you make?

You are probably spending over $1,000 per month if you are ex cons. So x 12, is at least $12,000!

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Well said. They're brainwashed though so don't even bother.

Followers, followers, followers... Goid for you for attempting to shine light.

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You are a typical dumb consultant apparently...RF is NOT the number 1 in premium skincare, the only premium thing about this *** company are their prices! Euromonitor was the ONLY company that made that claim and they benefit directly from RF! Ah, another dumb *** out there believing the hype....

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Best selling =0.

There is a sucker born every minute!

Bad experiences are planned, so there is no accountability on the part of the co.

Have you not read the fine print?? Hiding behind amateurs!

Yes it is much more expensive. Add it up.

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