Dallas, Texas
1K views 3 comments
Not resolved

Proz.com is a website founded by Henry Dotterer of Syracuse, New York, USA. The domain is registered like a *** site via "GoDaddy" privacy domain registration and it does not list a physical US office address but only a US PO Box.

For a "mebership fee" of 144 USD the registered freelancers receive access to job postings mainly made by translation agencies. There is also a "Certified PRO network" for paying members. However, as proz is only a website but neither an organisation, institution, association, nor registered company, proz cannot "certify" anybody legally, especially not "based on EN 15038" as they promise. The European Norm 15038 for translation services has been developed and exclusively certified by official DIN certification bodies such as DIN CERTO, TÃœV and other national certification bodies of the European Union member states. However, EN 15038 cannot be certified by organisations outside the EU and thus especially not by unregistered businesses such as proz.com. Therefore the offer to receive a "ProZ.com Certified PRO" title and seal is in fact based on the misleading statement that the proz community could anonymously decide about certification "based on EN 15038" although nobody at proz.com holds the official authorisation to certify anybody "based on EN 15038". Finally this is not the only issue with proz.com.

The "excerpt from the EN 15038 standard for quality in the translation industry" on proz.com is a copyright infringement as proz.com does not hold the reproduction rights for the English translation of DIN EN 15038, which is a copyright of Beuth Verlag GmbH.

What is more, proz.com advertises that paying members would benefit form "new client risk management" through the so-called "Blue Board" where members would be able to post non-payment issues with outsourcing agencies. However, each time a freelancer attempts to post a non-payment report or low rating, the moderators step in and make the rating invisible and so help the non-payers and other unreliable outsourcing agencies to get away with their non-payment scam. Moreover, through the moderated censorship of non-payment reports by providers, real scammers have the best ratings on the "Blue Board" and proz.com is helping them to lure more freelancers into the trap. The freelancers are wasting their time making their own experience with bad payers because proz.com is paid more by their agency customers than by their members.

Summary: proz.com is a trap for freelancers and it is a waste of time and money to buy a membership and apply to job postings. At the end of the day, the promises they made about certification and risk management turned out to be misleading statements and empty scams in support of illegal activities. Therefore, proz.com cannot be "the leading source of translation jobs and translation work for freelancers".

Recommended further readings:

1. The ProZ Perversion | No Peanuts! for Translators

2. Il Segno di Caino - The Translator's Hall of Shame: ProZ.com

3. Interview with Henry Dotterer, founder and president of proz.com

4. DIN EN 15038

Review about: Translation Job Board.

Review #351244 is a subjective opinion of a user.

PRODUCT OR SERVICE
Not specified
Reason of Review / Monetary Loss Not specified / $3000
Preferred solution Not specified

Had an Experience with Proz?

Submit review

Comments

Comment as anonymous or
Terms of Service
Post Comment
Cancel
Anonymous
Syracuse, New York, United States #1251997
A Guardian blog article published in April 2012 referred to ProZ.com as "the world's largest translator organisation". We run a legitimate service that has helped over 50,000 translators and interpreters, as well as translation companies, expand their businesses and do better work.
Anonymous
#1020186
Same dissappointed Proz member here. You can read my experience here : https://translatorants.wordpress.com/2015/08/16/proz-blueboard-is-not-credible/
Dorftrottel
#790946
Thank you for the above summary. I have been a non-paying contributing freelancer to Proz for 10 years and have concluded just as much from observation.
The Blue Board is a farce and provides a serious disservice to freelancers, especially newbies, whom are mistakenly under the impression that it provides a system to *** out the unscrupulous frauds and bottom-feeders that the translation industry attracts like a magnet.
Any unflattering report of impropriety may be diluted immediately on the Blue Board by the outsourcer simply by bestowing favourable ratings to a stream of freelancers, many of them new and naive, who are then grateful and "honour-bound" to return the favour.
It is needless to point out that this system is merely an indicator that the outsourcer in question may be both punctual and attentive when paying out for small jobs, but suddenly and inexplicably becomes unreachable and brazenly dishonest when the sum owing increases to several thousand Dollars/Euros, in some cases.

You May Also Like

"TOTHERespected sir MY 65000.00 SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND MONEY NOT REFUND Career Steps Resources Limited/ csrl indiA Netaji Subhash Place, 602A, 602B, 6th Floor, DMALL, 6, Prembadi Underpass, Guru Govind Singh..." Read more
"My name is Cory Ermi, and a friend of mine had told me that he talked to his boss and I was to go and fill out an application because..." Read more
" I started working with the company in January 2016 and in 6 months I grew my company from $17,000 /month to $240,000 /month. And I'm not just talking..." Read more
"I was scammed by a Val Tapia when I was forced to call a local napa locksmith after having my car keys stolen. He promised to delete all keys from..." Read more
"I purchased a bag from shop.highsierra.com, found defective stitch near the zip after I received it, called CS hotline and got rejected for my free return label request, the so-called..." Read more
"Good morning I purchased 2 pair of uggs from the walking company in October 2016 approximately 5 months ago. On March 20th I attempted to put on a pair of..." Read more
"I went to the store located in The Post Oak Mall in Collage Station TX on March 27,17 at 7:30 went to to get checked out Boone was around so..." Read more
"I bought a boat cover from Sealskin 8 months ago and the tarp has already split and ripped down the center of the cover. I have submitted emails, phone calls..." Read more