Kailua, Hawaii
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The minute I got off the plane, got picked up in an overstuffed van and taken to a motel for orientation with the other suckers, fed cheap snacks and juice in a Dixie cup and placed in far away housing, I knew something wasn't right.To begin with, I contacted a Collins sales rep via telephone after seeing an ad on TV and looking up their website.

I was looking up schools out of state because Hawaii's University didn't provide advanced up to date training in media production back in 2004-2005. Their website looked legitimate so I made the call and was greeted and informed by a very friendly 20 something girl (who's name I can't recall but have written down somewhere,) who gave me a very detailed and positive narrative of the school, it's curriculum, staff, housing, accreditation and emphasized it's state of the art training with up to date software and computers. Over two weeks, I corresponded with this same rep who assured me I didn't need to bring a computer from home as a new one would be provided that would run the current software needed for classes and no matter what my financing options, they would adjust the loan for payment up to one year after completion of the courses, no problem. Let's say not one of the promises made while I was in Hawaii came out as claimed saved for the location of the school.

They sent a brochure for a 17 inch screen Powerbook G4 laptop and tried to deliver without telling me a 15 inch Powerbook with a smaller drive and less features. It took 4 months or more and many letters to different departments who ignored me before I finally ended up writing the President of the school 3 or 4 times to get a meeting, only to have him deny they were in any way obliged to provide the computer they said they would, citing some claim of the right to making changes to equipment availability without notice forcing me to threaten to leave the school and report them to The Better Business Bureau. Only THEN did they provide the right computer and 4 months after scheduled delivery. I had to do all my homework at the school between classes and work.

Fortunately the courses were so easy, I aced them all, save for one C in audio production caused by choosing to work on a production in another county for a week, missing the final. They modified my loans without notification until after the changes took effect, including a decision to change my loan to pay as I attend instead of after completion of courses. They kept increasing the amount until it was over $150 a month. My availability for employment was low while attending classes was low and they had a waiting list for campus jobs that I had to get on, so I took low paying employment and commuted without a car (another detail they left out saying I didn't need one for a campus job,) to provide basics like food and rent, something they said the loan would take care, then they drop the $150 a month on me.

Even with a full class schedule and work I realized I was in trouble, so tried to make the best of a bad situation, working full time, getting A's and even sitting in on second "year" courses more my speed to get pointers. Needless to say, it became apparent I was losing ground in AZ every month. My health suffered, there was no security no touted numerous employment opportunities, no accreditation to apply for grants as a Native Hawaiian. Since moving home, I can say it's the major reason why I am still on the *** of bankruptcy with Sallie Mae threatening to garnish my non-existent wages and homeless to boot at present.

I returned broke, sick, exhausted, without a certificate and little references, no place to live, no car and no leads. I recovered enough to find patch work while providing home care for my Mom, then my Dad before he died, but it's been very sketchy at best. The fact I attended Collins never impressed anyone serious in the business, even when I was in AZ. In fact, I was told I was a sucker about halfway through the first curriculum by people I applied to work for.

Trade school scams are common in AZ I find out, Collins even had 20/20 do an investigative report on them. It's no wonder the students were left to fend for themselves and vainly compete with Alumni for production work anywhere in AZ, sometimes showing up to the same job calls. Now I'm faced with the weight of this travesty keeping me from getting stable work without being hampered by crushing student loans for a promised education meant to increase my skill set and wage potential that not only never took lived up to it's promised advertising, but has actually caused me to struggle to recover from what should have been an out of state trip to better myself and provide potential career options that weren't available before attending their school. Do NOT believe a word these people tell you.

They are there to collect money from you through borderline if not actually fraudulent loan practices, kick you out with nothing to show and destroy your financial standing with crippling debt you can't do anything about. Do anything but attend this Sham. Tell everyone you know, too. My life was hard in AZ for 2 years, but it has been in shambles since 2007 and my return home after burning through my limited resources for nothing, wrecking my health, wasting time and gaining nothing on my resume' here in Hawaii, making finding work even worse, on and on and on...

I have no money to fight these crooks or I would have tried to find a lawyer ages ago. Sadly, I hope more people being burned by Collins will change things for my chances at seeing them exposed. Thanks for listening. This is a first draft.

Contact me if you know any way I can find help.Mahalo and Aloha

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GoodGrief
San Francisco, California, United States #662097

Sounds like a bunch of BS.Fact is 50% of college students drop out.

And of that 50%, 80% don't get jobs in there field. Had friends in Collins, all work in the tech and/or communication industry. The education system in the country is archaic. One's own self reliance is what makes the difference.

No one is going to hand you a job.

TZ
Scottsdale, Arizona, United States #631328

Hi please let me know about this I would really love to be part of this. Would we still be able to sue with the college shutting down? Please email me byrond@godaddy.com

Collins_Success
Gilbert, Arizona, United States #591547

I went to Collins for thier Networking Program.With thier education alone, I have progressed to a Sr.

Network Engineer position in the #1 Cisco partner company in the US, with a 6 figure income. I'm sick of people bashing this school. They provide the education, it's up to you to put it to use.

PS--Anyone complaining about not getting a good job as any kind of artist already has lost all credibility with me anyway. Of course it's a tough market, who wouldn't want to sit around all day like they were in art class?

Besides being subjective, it takes talent no matter how much knowledge you have.You can't teach talent.

LoDotheSLAYER
#398957

Oh my God!...Whoa is me.

I can't believe that either of you REALLY wanted to get educated. It sounds like, to me, that you're both blaming lifes problems, your problems on the school. #1 rule in ANY BUSINESS is that you are NOT ENTITLED to ANYTHING. You have to earn it.

If that means taking a $9.00 an hour job to start (because you ARE only starting, after all) to get your foot in the door then that's what you do. Life is what you put into it and you both sound like little brats who really didn't have a GOAL or a PLAN.

It just "sounded good".You both, obviously didn't do your homework...these things could've (and probably would've) happend to you anyways at ANY SCHOOL because of your attiude and sense of "entitlement." Good Luck to the 2 of you.

Kurt
#393945

Thanks David.Make sure you let people know is all you can do.

I'm still effected by the repurcussions but I'm over feeling like a victim about it.

The longer it goes on and the more people I see getting suckered really *** me off.

Glad they didn't rook you as bad.Take care and have a great Holiday Season.

Aloha

furinax
#393891

Hi I actually had the same experience from Collins College.I didn't stay in their student housing but my friend did.

We both moved to Phoenix after hurricane Katrina and he lost his house so he had to stay in the student housing. The apartments were not close and they did not match him up with viable room mates. One set of guys in our class lived in the apartments right next to each other and broke a hole through the wall so they could hang out without having to go outside... That's besides the point.

He and I both had the same issues. I lived in New Orleans and called inquiring about Collins College and asking for a brochure and the woman got my information sent me the brochure and the next day called to tell me I was enrolled. I did not ask to be enrolled I just wanted to see what classes they offered ext.. Well I took it as a grain of salt and looked everything over and then Katrina hit so I figure why not.

I went to Phoenix took the tour and was promised the world. They said that most graduated leave the school making 80k entry level which is more than enough to make up the 70k in student loans I would get. They also told me as well I would not have to pay much on my student loans but then made multiple student loans which I cant even afford interest only payments on now.I've deferred and forbearanced my loans so much now my only option is to try and file bankruptcy because it's to much. Luckly I was able to get a good job that sent me back to...

If it wasn't for my job I would be stuck making 9$/hr because that's the jobs they offered to help me get when I graduated. The funny thing is when I graduated and when in for my post graduation job consultation the guy was so excited to offer me a position as a game tester for 9$ which was 5$ less than what I was making at my current job at the time. This school is a huge scam. I'm just hoping I can file bankruptcy and get on with having somewhat of a normal life.

I hope things have worked out well for you.

I just wanted to let you know there is someone else out there who feels your pain.The student loan companies currently want 1200$ a month from me and that's interest only.

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David D
#285807

Thx for sharing.So very sorry.

Hope you're seeing better days.I think you will.

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