Naomi B Kqu

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What Is the Opposite of Zealous Representation

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I mean they start charging for creating a deed for themselves before asking. I asked Chris McDonough if I could have the remainder of my retainer.

He said out of $3,450 and no preparation for the case Just showing up. Well he lied and said it was subpoena prep for a case that he would easily lose a continuance because he didn't explain that it was subpoenaing for documents which has specific time frames and take a minimum of 30 days. They did not correct the opposing party's argument that it was for witnesses which does not have a need for 30 days plus. I found out they were charging for things like preparation of a note.

Research on deed. This is just the tip of the iceberg!!!!!!!

I mean as a victim it's painful to repeat the rest. Like a rape victim reliving a rape.

The preferred method I meant to put money, costs, back, along with liens removed and not necessary but an apology would be nice too.

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Loss:
$75000
Cons:
  • Poor service
  • Incompetent
  • Over charged

Preferred solution: Apology

User's recommendation: Stay away

RAY B Mhl

VERY UNPROFESSIONAL

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HORRIBLE SERVICE I REQUESTED ALL DOCUMENTS BE RETURNED AND STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED .VERY UNPROFESSIONAL .INTERESTED MORE IN MONEY RATHER THEN CLIENTS CIRCUMSTANCES AND RISKS OF SITUATIONS.THEY WILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR AND WHATEVER IS GONNA BENEFIT THEM.I PROVIDED VALUABLE EVIDENCE TO A CRIME AND ATTORNEY DID NOT REVIEW OR SUBMIT EVIDENCE TO JUDGE.THEY MADE THINGS SO MUCH HARDER ON TOP OF A WRONGFUL DEATH.I PAID 3100.00 FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING .I TRULY REGRET HIRING THIS FIRM THEY WILL NOT EVEN RETURN MY EMAILS.LANCE CLAERY SAID HE WAS GOING TO REPRESENT MY CASE AND DID NOT .NO RETAINER WAS FILLED OUT AFTER HIRE.

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Loss:
$3100
Reason of review:
Poor customer service

Preferred solution: Full refund

christiana l Bqe

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| map-marker Los Angeles, California

Con Artists!

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I can't even describe the level of incompetence this firm has. This is by far the works experience and almost a criminal one!

They have been around San Diego only for 6 years !! I should have checked with the BBB ! Numerous complains filed on various site! I believe they were ran out of LA due to their extremely unethical billing practice !

I have honestly never experience such criminal behaviors from any law firm ! They charged my card with out permission ( did not sign a billing agreement nor did I authorize it. They actually got my friend to authorize MY card. Which is a clear violation and FRAUD!!

They bill to have a "chat" among themselves ! The worst part is when it got down to business they actually failed to file the paperwork so we lost on that alone ! $7000 AND NO ACTUAL work was ever done ! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE if you value your case , your money and your time along with your sanity STAY AWAY !!

also the goon they send to "smooth" things over when you realize you have been had ELI don't believe his lies !! like I'm a moron I don't need flattery ! I need result ! I don't see this firm being around long term too many other more honest caring firms out there !

I cannot stress this enough !!! Total FRAUDS !!

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Cons:
  • Over charged
  • Incompetent
  • Poor service
Reason of review:
Charged card with out authorization overcharged for services not renders. Just a big scam

Preferred solution: Full refund

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Naomi B Aas

They are slick practitioners at billing. No competence. No discovery, contradictory pleadings and jurisdictions, poor ethics, and/or oversight.

Kagan Sdd

Bad!!!***

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Claery And Green - Bad!!!***

*** this firm all the real reviews are the one star all the 4 stars are people they know !!! ALL they do is charge charge charge don't contact you for *** and when they do is to charge you for more !!!charged us 3000 to do nothing now just called us to charge 1500 to show up for court ...all you see in billing is draft substitution of attorney this place could go to *** ...switch our attorney three times and charging for that *** -!!

Palce didn't do shitttttttt!!! PIECE OF *** *** PLACE TOKE ALL THE SAVINGS WE HAD FOR CHILD CUSTODY!

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Anonymous

They stole 3K from me and never filed my order for support!

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I hired Cleary & Green to file an order to reinforce a child support order from a different state. They said everything I needed to hear in order to take a $2,850 -- money I put on a credit card, as I live pay check to pay check as a teacher.

As soon as we got the actual order written I was told they needed to get a certified copy of my order and as soon as I got them the certified copy of my order they told me I need to disclose income etc.. No one told me that the process would take months (close to 4 months at this point). They claim I owe them hundreds more, while we never even filed the order and half of the things on the invoice I questions, as nothing has actually been done. I feel taken for a ride and lost approx.

3K! I was passed around from attorney to attorney, though I thought I hired one of the principles, and they would leave me random messages knowing nothing about my case.

They only called when I questioned the invoice. Horrible experience -- I should be given my money back.

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Loss:
$3000
Reason of review:
They took my money and then claimed they couldn't tell me how much it was going to cost to just get my order filed.

Preferred solution: Full refund

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Naomi B Aas

You are lucky mine is $70,000 on a failed civil tro I filed. Just hired because didn't know how to do subpeonasl.

They used it as trial for continuance and months later still none.

The created a security agreement on my house and said not to worry about the bills. Shocked how that amount was reached over nothing.

Anonymous
map-marker Los Angeles, California

Claery And Green Divorce Attorney Review from Los Angeles, California

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Lance Claery subs out work to various attorneys who lack the experience necessary to represent clients in court and doesn't not listen to clients when they complain about the attorneys he assigns to the case. He is a smooth talker but will not take responsibility for anything the attorney does and will not provide you with the options you have as a client in the case.

Most of the attorneys are young and may be unable to effectively prosecute your case before the court. They may on occasion lie and give into the opposing counsel so watch out if they change their strategy or relay information about your case which is vastly different from what they discussed prior to signing the contract with them.

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Poor customer service
Donald Axn
map-marker Los Angeles, California

Bait and Switch and horrible representation

I was approached by Arran Treadway, from the firm of CLAERY & GREEN, who offered to represent me after I had posted a question on enforcing and attorney fee order. He appeared helpful and knowledgeable at our first conversation and meeting but I caution you do not be fooled.

I, as a pro per, had prepared a Request For Order to Enforce attorney fees and he filed this without adding anything other than his attorney fee rates. He did not understand, nor make any effort to completely understand the issues concerning this request as I later discovered when I was in court for the hearing without him there representing me because after representing me for less than a month, knowing I had no money and could not even afford the retainer he requested, he refused to continue representing me unless I paid him more money. I discovered later this firm has a reputation of doing this and I also discovered after meeting with other attorney's just how little knowledge Mr. Treadway and his firm had when it came to family law.

They also billed me for the time of two other attorneys including a senior partner whom I'd never met, never spoken with nor approved working nor had any knowledge were even working on my case which involved only this one motion which I myself prepared.

I was billing excessively and to the tune of more than $8,000 and was clearly taken advantage of by Claery & Green. I hope to alert others and spread the word so that they can be aware of this.

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on the list https://vid.me/P1vD

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ARRAN TREADWAY Is so unprofessional he's is so unethical, he makes fun of his clients and call them with horrible nick names this "lawyer " is also known for bribing witnesses, cheating and lying the evilness in this person is incredible one thing that I'm sure about this awful person is that he will Roth in ***, for being a lier, manipulative, pathetic son of a ***.

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Anonymous

Worst Family Law Firm

As someone who has worked in the legal field for 10 years, this firm is a disgrace. They are the type of firm that gives every other lawyer in the profession a bad reputation. Their practices are unethical and it’s sad that they feel the need to take advantage of the average layperson for money and greed. Unfortunately, the legal field offers little to no remedy for the consumer being taken advantage by this type of place so there is virtually nothing you can do about it.

Please stay away from this firm. I highly regret not reading Yelp before selecting a law firm to handle my divorce. My only solace is that I found a much better law office as soon as I could; otherwise, I would still be spending approximately $2,000 a month for an associate doing nothing except picking his butt and finding ways to inflate the billable hours. (It took them three months and I don’t know how many billable hours to even serve my disclosures.) The amount of money you end up paying for the extremely poor quality legal work is astounding. I was billed for “legal research” on areas that I was adamant about not wanting to pursue and their main tactic is to double bill you – i.e. during a phone call, my attorney agreed to take care of an issue for me. I assumed it was taken care of until a week later when I received an email and phone call from my attorney following up to ask if I authorize him to take care of said issue. In short, this firm gave me more anxiety than the divorce process itself. I hired a new, MUCH more COMPETENT and intelligent attorney who is proactive and passionate about being an advocate for you. It’s pathetic that respondent’s counsel was going around my attorney to reach out to me and then just as happy as I was when he learned that I fired this office. But the mistake of using this firm will haunt me for awhile until the debt is paid off. Don’t be fooled by their retainer strategy; unless there is a vast amount of wealth in your estate that the partner sees he can profit off of, you will be passed down to an unknowledgeable associate who’s main goal is to try to milk what little money you have.

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Anonymous
map-marker Los Angeles, California

Pissed customer

I have only been with this company for about three weeks now and i already feel like i have been scammed, three different lawyers have handled my case just within these short span, its like i get a change of lawyer every week, with emails stating the lawyers have left the company, i have never seen such in my entire life, and not only that i have gotten bogus bills for nothing, my file has not been turned it yet. I thought my case was the easiest case ever, but thanks to Lance it feels so complicated now, pls flee from this company, what a scam!!!!

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Anonymous
map-marker Craig, Colorado

CLEARY AND GREEN RIPPED ME OFF AND STILL ARE TRYING TO

This law firm is a joke. They have switched my lawyer that was assigned to my case 5 different times. I have been through H** with this law firm. They were suppose to file certain motions that they did not file. They were charging me for things that I did not ask for. To top it off when my lawyer was switched every 2 months I was never notified. I was always told the day of this happening. It would always happen on a Friday and then Monday is when I was told that there was a new attorney on the case and it would take a week or more for them to review my file. I also was requesting many things for them to do on my case and they wouldn't do it which was by LAW correct.

I had to tell them how to do their jobs. I did all my own legal research and asked several times about how this law can help my case and they did nothing on their part to research the laws and to file motions or anything on my behalf. BUT THEY SURE WERE CHARGING FOR THINGS THAT THEY WERE NOT DOING. I just feel that this law firm is a rip off.

I only talked to a attorney there which was Ely Hammond who set me up with this law firm. I then had spoke with other practicing attorney's there and they did nothing to help my case. I also requested to speak to Lance and never was given his email address after many attempts. This law firm also decided to drop my case when they were already involved for 10 months plus. It was just ridiculous.

The girls that were in the office would harrass me everytime I would call in to speak with my attorney if a payment was not made so they would stop me from speaking with my attorney. They are rude and quit frankly "B**CHES" that think they are doing me a favor by answering the phone. Tell me what type of law firm doesn't have multiple lines to place people on hold. I was told one time when I called in and I refused to wait for a call back from my attorney since they were lagging on things with my case that I am sorry but keeping you on hold will tie up my phone line. There hold only puts you on hold for 10 minutes then automatically hangs up on you. REALLY?? I have never dealt with such a unprofessional law firm in my life.

Anyone interested in seeking other issues I had contact me at HELPISUPTOYOU@***.COM

Thanks

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Guest

I AGREE THIS FIRM IS UNACCEPTABLE TO THE LAW AND NEEDS ATTENTION!

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:( I agree that this law firm is a complete rip off. I called to obtain their services and i spoke with Mr.

Cleary who assured me that he could help with my situation. After i received ,signed, and faxed back the contract and retainer agreement with my paymernt info. i got a call from an associate by the name of Sean Sobottka. Now when Mr.

Sobottka called me he said that he would be helping Mr. Cleary with my case, well little did i know that he would be the only one working on my case. To make a long and i do mean long story short Mr. Sobottka had no clue to what he was doing.

He never filed forms on time with the court and i actually had to tell him which forms he need to file. Now i am in no way part of the legal system, but i did some research in order to know that the forms i was telling him to file needed to be filed. So we now go to court for a trial and everything Mr. Sobottka said or did in the courtroom was objected by the judge, i tell you things were so bad that the opposing attorney was laughing in his face.

So after we walked out of the court i knew that i needed to find myself another attorney. At the end of the day Mr. Cleary is a bullshitter running a lawyer mill. They even switched attorneys on me twice after the embarrasment in court.

Not only did they provide me with an unqualified attorney for my type of case they had the nerves to charge me a total of over $10,000. They call you everyday harassing you leaving messages and emails.

This firm is taking advantage of people like myself who have never needed legal representation and is not an expert on choosing the right attorney. So my advice to anyone who is looking to hire this firm is to steer clear of Cleary & Green.

Stephen L Ayq

:( Yep, they did the same thing to me. Same game. I schedule a meeting, Lance Claery is there. He is smart and gets it right away.

Then he tells me my attorney is Ian Hammond. Then someone tells me it is someone else, all in 10 minutes. So I right it into our Retainer Agrement. I have an urgent matter and they take two weeks stalling and I get 20 emails about the Retainer agreement and 2 saying welcome to the firm and one saying they can't help me and will return the Retainer. They did not return the retainer.

Stay away

Guest

My attorney was Jon at Cleary and Greene was on always prepared and argued for me in court. I am happy with the orders the judge made and there is no way I could have done it on my own.

Divorces are hard and I didn't expect to be hostile with my ex. I just didn't want the orders ton be unfair.

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Mike D Ptc
map-marker Los Angeles, California

Lance Cleary - Cleary & Green Law Firm Deceived and Ripped Off

After speaking with Lance ONE time initially, I was pawned off to someone beneath him 3 different times without warning, due to these junior lawyers quitting/getting fired. I was litigating for $6k in child support I had to pay until a boy turned 18.

Lance assured me it would be a $3k case closed max uncontested. After I was in too deep it had eventually grow to $9k to squash $6k, not to mention my time. This expert was off by 300%! What a waste, after a so called win on the child support, the support would have been easier to pay the $341 a month to the end.

Now I pay the lawyer in $500 installments, still get dinged for a $30 late fee and interest each time! I could understand being off the mark even as an experienced lawyer by $1k for a $3k case but triple what I was told?

I did not plan on spending more than 3k to NET 3k. I really was deceived by this law firm and lost $6k+ even though it was win from an non contesting party that didn't even use a lawyer!

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The worst decision I made when I was fighting for custody Aaron Treadway was horrible, got sanctioned and I had to pay, and then made numerous legal errors that should have never happened. If you have to go to court do NOT use this law firm.

Guest

This firm is a complete joke. They take weak and broken people and take any bit of dignity left.

This firm is the reason attorneys get bad names.

They literally took food of my child's table. SHAM ON THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest

They are Cleary a Scam!! I'm not going to go into specific details about my case ,but all I will say is I spoke to Lance one time, he gave my case to a very in experienced lawyer and I went through 4 of them because they kept quitting.

I Lost my case and my daughter because of the lack of experience. DO NOT HIRE THEM!!!! YOU WILL LOSE!!! Thanks for making this site.

It is the only way we can get back at what they are doing. It's flat out wrong what they are doing to hard working people!!

Guest

I agree with the negative comments I have read here. I dealt with Aaran Treadway from Claery & Green, LLP.

When this guy makes his way around the courtroom, you have to be careful not to walk directly behind him as there is a trail of slime, and you might slip and fall. He blatantly lied, cheated, and stole in a child custody case; it was clear he would do anything to win.

Luckily, the judge was not fooled by him and sent him on his way a little less arrogant. Ethics classes are a must for this law firm.

Guest

you do NOT want this firm to represent you!!!!!!!!

I got them to help me with my devorce almost 2 year ago and my devorce got finalize not long ago.I was told i was going to pay,$789.00 dollars no more to finalize my divorce, it was a simple case i was told by "jannnifer,there attorne". I felt like they were my exwife attorney, that how bad it was.

there attorneys are always resigning or getting fierd!!

I andit up paying more then $5000 leglal fees.

you never speak with your attorney only hes paralegal never update on your case but there accounting dep, its great!!!

they will email you,send you statements,phone calls to collect any fees you need to pay.

if there attorneys would work as hard as there collection dep.

they would be a great firm.

do NOT hierd this people!!!!!!!!!!!!

they will suck you dry and will not get things done.

your better off representing your self.

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My boyfriend went through the same experience with these leaches. He was initially told he would pay no more than $5000 and 2 years later they have done NOTHING to help...they have just drug the case out as long as they could to bill him as much as they could...he now owes them $24,000 and the case is still gone nowhere.

These people are scam artist just out to take your money....DO NOT HIRE THEM.

THEY NEED TO BE SUED. Your story is almost identical to his.

Guest

Thank you for posting your comments. I contacted the company this morning asking if they could help me in my case and they were so expedient to send me forms for my signature.

Upon waiting for the forms I decided to look up reviews on them and found this page. I am deeply saddened to hear the losses for all these other consumers and have decided to not hire this company based on these recent negatory accusations. Thank you for your posts.

I will continue on my journey of finding some other legal counsel. Sincerely,

Guest

I had the same negative experience: initial interview was great, my case was transferred through four "associates" in three months, was billed an hour of "work" each for one-line emails that were repeatedly sent to me that were unwarranted (such as confirming a scheduled hearing date, or just asking how I'm doing), ad nauseum. One of the associates was transferred to my case just prior to the court date, and only spoke to me once, when calling from a party (his statement) the night before the hearing.

They managed to completely ruin an easy case by doing absolutely no research, and I was billed several hours work each time my case was transferred so that the new associate could review my case to become familiar. My final counsel did not even speak during the hearing, and only met with me to take notes while the hearing was delayed - the judge even made comments as to the poor representation.

I would've saved $20k, and had better results, if I'd simply gone pro se. STAY AWAY FROM THIS FIRM!

Guest

And from what I have seen on another consumer website, I am definitely not hiring this firm. everybody has the same story of multiple case transfers to the newbies revolving through the firm and being charged 20 minutes for sending a fax or reading a 1 sentence email and stamping letters.

Guest

#5 Tanika,

3000 to 9000 is 333% difference than what was promised.

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