Anonymous
map-marker Rochester, New York

Just needed some questions answered

My questions were answered and was able to get a copy of a misplaced document a and find out when and how the billing cycle applies

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User's recommendation: Iam new but looking forward to my association with this company goes smoothly the phone calls I made did.

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Guest

You are doomed.

Anonymous

Bankers Conseco in Rochester is a pure joke

I was called out of the blue about coming into a interview. To amuse myself I did go and found out that it was just as I thought a joke.

Look them up in NY and find out what has happened with this so called company from the Department of Insurance etc... and the settlement from the department of labor. STAY AWAY. I work for a reputable company now selling insurance and I am very happy.

Thankfully I was smart enough to move as far away from them as I could. I don't think that anybody makes more than 20k per year which is a far cry from what they promise.

You can see right through the fake managers as soon as the presentation starts. They could at least find better actors.

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Levette Iis

Mrs. Danita Redd

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I have been attempting to get information on my mother's two annuity policies since June 2016 for the purpose of fulfilling requirements for Medicaid. Here is who Client Services are, Alliance-One Services, which is a third party Administrator which performs a variety of administrative services for insurance policies in accordance with a servicing contract between the administrator and the insurance company.

This Third Party Administrator provides customer service for policies on behalf of Conseco in collecting premiums and applications, claims processing, benefit payments, and any other service request relating to policies or contracts. Each time I have called, they have a hard time finding the annuity policy numbers. When I contacted them in June of 2016, I was told no information could be given to me because there was no POA on file. I sent in a copy to Conseco, then over a month later I received two letters on the annuities but not with the correct information needed.

I contacted them again, then was told the POA was not valid because it had a page missing. Sent in another copy of the POA. Called back about a week later was told the POA was still invalid. Questioned what was invalid, was told could not give any information due to not being legally allowed.

Have been in battle with this company for the past three weeks now. Sent in a Letter of Consent signed by my mom who is in a nursing home and notarized. Faxed the Letter of Consent, called this company to check on the status of the fax, was told it had not arrived (this was 24 hours later!!!!). Finally, someone found the fax and instructed them to please send the information via fax within the next 24 hours.

Checked back again 24 hours later and was told there was no record of the fax nor the Letter of Consent. This is just a short version of what has happened in the last three weeks. Have been told of a so called letter sent to me from their legal department informing me of what is needed on the POA August 11th, still no letter has arrived at mine nor my aunt's home as of Saturday the 20th. They refused to transfer me to a supervisor, stating none were available.

Refused to transfer me to the legal department, stating they don't receive calls.

Refused to transfer me to management, stating they would contact me in 24 to 48 hours, this was told to me on Thursday, August 18th!!!! Still no contact from this so called company has occurred.

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Cons:
  • Inconsistency of how information is given
  • Ineptness of the reps in knowing information
Reason of review:
Poor customer service

Preferred solution: Fax me the information I have been requesting for the last three weeks to be used in fulfilling the requirements of Medicaid.

Karlei Tbs
map-marker Cape Coral, Florida

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My husband and I have long-standing life insurance policy with Conseco Life Insurance Co. This month we were billed twice from our checking account.

After finally talking with someone after an hour, we were assured this would be rectified. However that was 10 days ago and they have still not removed the extra charge.

It is almost impossible to reach a human after the recording that wouldn't even recognized my policy number. It is almost impossible to talk to a human.

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Loss:
$125
Cons:
  • That they could not recognize my policy number
Reason of review:
Problems with payment

Preferred solution: Full refund

1 comment
Guest

You need to know something....

I understand the must for life insurance.

35c a day.

That's an amazing deal!!!!!

What would happen if you believed in your self, and started putting that in a jar?

everything but quarters because temptations less. death is a serious time, and business is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous

I received a call from "Julie" about a sales position, even though I never applied for one.

When I received a call from Julie from Bankers, I was a little weary about it. First, I never applied for a sales position (I'm a pharmacy Technician) Secondly, when she told me she would send me details through E-mail and to check my Spam Folder...that sent off warning bells.

I did research on this company and figured out it was a scam, I called Julie back and asked her to give me the full name of the corporation She spelled it out to me "Bankers Conseco" I told her I read online about Scam complaints and then she hung up on me.

So, DO NOT fall for this! Always research companies you've never heard of and be weary about job searching, and out of the blue phone calls that have nothing to do with your current or past positions or skills.

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Reason of review:
Poor customer service
5 comments
Guest

Ma'am with top dollar at hand,

Corporations can use these tactics freely because the know, there is absolutely no way to push concrete evidence on anyone over the Internet.

Unless Law enforcement stood right next to you and physically watched and taped you Breaking a law.

It's simply he said she said.

Don't be scared to higher a hacker to drop a virus on their door step. I would.

Guest

In my opinion, having just got back from an interview, all they wanted was sales references.

Guest

They just called me today. I have not applied for a sales position and when I asked how she got my resume, she kept changing the conversation.......very ***

Guest

I worked for Banker's, while they're very limited in the products they offer and in my opinion overpriced, they're not a scam . If you read the above complaint and HOW it's written, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the individual is very immature. I'm an independent now and have access to over 80 different insurance companies and I honestly don't know of ANY insurance company that there HASN'T been a complaint leveled against them,( if you don't believe me try the internet ) this individual simply needs to grow up, I'd probably would've hung up on her as well.

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They explained they aren't looking for a sales position and didn't apply for one. So how does that makes them "immature".

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Anonymous
map-marker Fairport, New York

Bankers Conseco Health Insurance Review

Used automatic payment without permission by copying routing number from premium check. Supervisor answered our complaint and was extremely rude.

Extremely difficult to do business with. Coverage was not as promised. Never do business with them again.

Do not want to hear from them about this. Very stressful experience.

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Not as described/ advertised
Anonymous
map-marker Bridgeport, Connecticut

A Call Out of the Blue.

I received a message on my phone stating,"my resume has been seen and the company manager would like to meet with me for an interview." I DID NOT apply for a sales position. Although I have posted my resume on the internet, it's for a medical position.

I am a seasoned x-ray technologist. I did not respond immediately because something didn't feel right. I never heard of Bankers Conseco. After a bit of research about the company, in my opinion, it isn't for me at all!!

I had no intention to join a company that seems shady at best. If it's sounds to good to be true, read, read read and read some more.

Thank you for saving my time. HC

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Anonymous

Mysterious job offer

I received a phone call from this company...using my name........and stating that they're calling in response to my resume, and would like to talk to me some more. Ummmm.

I have never heard of this company, and have submitted one resume in the past year to a design company. Crazy suspicious. I don't have time for nonsense. But where did they get my name and number???????????????????????????????????

I have no interest, and immediately don't trust them.

I called back to pretend, just to see what their story is as to when I supposedly submitted this resume, but they never picked up. I called at least 11 times.

Finally, I left a message, and received another phone call back (at a bad time) so they left a *** message again. I hate them, but I have to investigate further.

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Anonymous
map-marker New York, New York

EMPLOYMENT/PAYMENT SCAM

I worked for bankers conseco for 10mths. I did well and made some money but I had to have surgery and resigned. Four mths after my surgery I recieved a call from the company telling me I owed them over $300 called charge backs for a policy I wrote and got paid for. MONEY I RIGHTFULLY EARNED.

After my initial shock wore off I asked the lady on the phone why was I being charged for someone cancelling a policy mths after I resigned and was told that as long as I was paid for the policy at the policy's cancellation I am on the hook for the money they lost paying me for my work.

At my initial interview and during training I were told charge backs only applied while you worked for the company and they take it out of your next commission check.

I brought this up to the lady on the phone and she said it's written in the employment contract. So they tell you everything you want to hear at the interview and during training and purposely leave that part out because they know anyone with common sense will walk out.

I was fortunate to do well for the time I was there and on some days I lost more money on gas, tolls, parking, and on some days lunch but some people that started with me were not that fortunate and lost a lot more money than they made so if they already left and didn't get the call I got they're in for a big surprise.

So if I made $10K working for 8 mths and all those people cancelled I would owe bankers $10K and the lady on the phone co-signed it.

STAY FAR AWAY FROM BANKERS CONSECO!!!

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Loss:
$300
4 comments
Guest

I am shocked that Colonial Penn recommends this company. There's no way in *** I'm using this company, after all of the negativity! Thank you, all!

Guest

How come outside of NY its only Bankers Life? No Conseco?

Most of all of these complaints I see are from NY. Is the LI office a scam or just miss managed.

Hopefully someone has feedback because I was pretty excited to get a call.... Respond ASAP

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They claim that the name conseco is the name they use for the NY branches

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I signed up for the NY license exam, but was given 3 weeks to study very hard material and pass. Also, cannot reach manager when I call office so this seems suspicious.

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Tom R Pqf
map-marker Lindenhurst, New York

Bankers Conseco a reputable company

After reading many of the complaints from relatives of policy holders, and from job seekers my conclusion is simple. Either you are ignorant of the facts and have chosen to remain so or you are simply misinformed. I come from a health background as a Medicare provider and joined "Bankers" eight months ago. I can tell you it is a hard business. There is significant turnover as many people are not use to hard work and persistence and want a free ride. In New York state where I work, I will lose my insurance license if I misrepresent a product. If can not prove it is a suitable product, especially now with annuity products the penalty id severe.

My experience has shown me that many people do not know much about insurance and can be easily "sold" a policy. It is you job as a consumer to understand and to demand you understand all facets of a policy you are going to buy. As for complaints about not being able to reach the company and getting the run around, you are mostly the problem. Every branch office has a manager and that person assigns a person to work specifically with "orphan" account. An "orphan" account is a policy holder who has no agent. If you do not have an agent you need to get one assigned to you and have them review you coverage.

It is a commissionable business and the agents are paid on 1099 just like a real estate agent. When buying a policy if you do not know how it works such as in a Long Term Care Policy is the agent to blame? Would you buy a car not knowing how it worked? There are specific rules that govern these policies and from what I have read most people have not a clue as to how they work.

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Guest

Wow! And you actually left that comment, on an already decidedly "bad" company?

Like adding fuel to the flame.

LOL! Wow!

Guest

Didn't I see you in Boiler Room, you arrogant POS. You are fully aware that you are involved in a scam, yet are putting the blame on the people that you COLD CALL and bully in to buying these worthless policies.

Guest

do not buy anything from Ryan or Bankers Conseco Life Insurance Company they are a bunch of scammers buy from nylife massmutual or northwestern mutual do your homework on any insurance company that you encounter before you purchase a product. You can go to insure.com and look up the financial strength of an insurer.

Currently Standard & Poors Has Bankers Conseco at BB+ WHICH IS MARGINAL at best. That is not a very strong rating if *** hits the fan

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thank you, so much! I'm so surprised that Colonial Penn recommends Bankers.

I'm going with the other two companies you've recommended. God bless you!

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Stone F Bwc
map-marker New York, New York

Bankers Conseco Employment Scam

Why am I not surprised to find so many employment complaints about this company? I made the poor decision to work there for a whopping 2 months which is all the time it took me to figure out that this is nothing but an employment scam. And I'm probably forgiving compared to most folks who would never start working here at all. Unethical and borderline criminal management, this firm takes advantage of young people looking for a real job. They promise leads that are nothing more than rehashed sales calls. My "manager" who had no idea how to lead a work force was an intolerant fool who made inappropriate comments in company meetings about employees and customers alike. I was "trained" by a "manager" who came to Conseco from a multiple 6 figure income and who made a whopping $16,000 his first year there. I should have left the place then. Here is why Bankers Conseco needs to hire in mass numbers:

1) The main concern of management regarding new recruits, mostly very young folks, is to sell them insurance to bloat sales results.

2) Alot of people are too smart to stay long.

3) After you leave they will call you and tell you you owe them money because policies you sold cancelled and they want their commission money back. In other words, you were good enough to get the business but this lousy company couldn't keep the business and now they want you to make up the difference. WOW! I got that call last night, my wife came to me terrified because someone left a message regarding a legal matter. When I called today, they started the conversation by asking if I wanted to settle this matter in an amicable way but I deferred an answer until I was told what it was about. When they did tell me and said I owed them $200, I laughed and then told them to send me a bill.

They can burn in *** before I pay this. And I wouldn't even blink at or miss $200. Now that I think about it, I will pay them by sending them $200 in pennies.

Stay far away from this company.

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Guest

thanks for the notice i just got a message left on my phone about a job opportunity. however my degree is in the medical field. when they do call me back i will inform them im not interested in sales or banking

Guest

I just cancelled my 3rd interview with Banker's Conseco in the Mid Hudson Valley. I feel I have dodged a bullet.

I spoke with an old colleague (a great salesperson) of mine whom I respect and worked with for many years at a previous employment. Told him the story of Banker's Conseco and he said to do some internet research on the company. The research confirmed some of my concerns in pursuing this opportunity. I initially felt this opportunity was "too good to be true" and based on articles and reviews I've read, I was right to feel this way; too many "red flags".

I promptly contacted my old colleague and thanked him in saving me "many months of angst and money". If it's too good to be true, don't pursue it.

Guest

You can tell by the desperation and recruiting tactics that this is not a reputable company. People would be lining up to apply for a job there if it were a good company.

Guest

I worked for this company back in 2010 after I graduated from undergrad and was trying to find a career. I had always worked harder than anyone else in all my previous jobs and was told during the interview that you made more money the harder you worked as opposed to just making a certain amount per hour.

First I spent several hundred dollars to train myself so that I could get licensed, and then you are shown during a week of special training on how to coerce seniors into letting you into their houses. Then you drive all over the capital district trying to make a sale. Over the span of two months, I had 'made' $800, and I was working 100+ hours a week. I ended up getting a part time job in retail and was affected so much by getting an actual paycheck that I left Bankers.

I saw people who had been working there for years and they were going to file for bankruptcy. Two of my coworkers took me out to lunch and congratulated me for getting away. Everyone is miserable who works there. This is a commission only job, and they take most of your commission for providing you with services.

Then right before my year was up after leaving them, one of my previous sales went under and I had to pay back $137, I just sent in a check and got it over with because they make you sign a contract stating that if any of your sales don't last an entire year, you need to give the commission you received back, no matter what the status of employment is. The only positive thing I got out of this experience is the fact that I learned all about insurance. So when I started at my current job, I had an easier time of learning all the ins and outs of the insurance companies at the hospital I am now at.

Otherwise, stay far, far away from there. It will suck the life out of you and bleed you dry of money...

Guest

How much they paired you

Guest

I just got the email that everyone seems to have gotten: " I came across your resume on Monster. I believe you have the skills to be a successful independent insurance agent at Bankers and would like to extend an invitation to meet me and my management team." I had a feeling something was off about it because I received a phone call from a lady who sounded like she was a computer with an Indian accent, and she was making it sound like I had applied to this place.

I definitely didn't, but I had been applying like a crazy person to so many places that I figured I just forgot the name of this one. So I set up the interview for Monday. Now, I'm thinking of just not going.

I need a job, but I don't need a job that sounds sketchy, I'd rather have no job than a job I don't feel 100% sure of. Thank you for the input everyone.

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I am in the same situation as you are. Thank you for posting this and thank God i did my research the night before the interview with them. I'll make sure to stay away from these people.

Guest

Thanks for this post - there seem to be many like it. I just put my resume up online, and all of a sudden people like these come creeping out of the woodwork!

I'm watching my phone closely and screening calls less because of course I DO want to hear from potential employers I have contacted. Glad to know not to waste my time with this one.

Guest

Thank you for telling me,

Because i got a mail (2014 July 11) from Joelle Brancov the recruiting manager at Bankers Conseco Life Insurance Company, Brooklyn.

Apparently they believe I have the skills to be a successful independent insurance agent at Bankers.

Ha Ha Ha ..... I WILL NOT GO TO ANY *** THESE GUYS DO.

Thank you for posting what happed to you.

I hope you find a Good job.

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I just received the same email. This is the first place I came.

I'm 58 years old, wanting to come off of social security for disability and reenter the workforce a little at a time. I worked as a telecommunications engineer with a medical background.

I will give their offer some consideration but with everyone's concerns, I will enter in a very skeptical mode. Thanks for the input.

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Lillis Kkw
map-marker Yonkers, New York

BANKERS CONSECO LIFE IS A JOKE!!!

THIS COMPANY IS A REVOLVING DOOOR!! ESPECIALLY THE WHITE PLAINS NY OFFICE!!

NOBODY HAS BEEN THERE FOR MORE THAN A YEAR,OH YEA YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL OF YOUR OWN EXPENSES... IF U DO DECIDE TO WORK THERE BE PREPARED TO BE TREATED LIKE A CHILD AND MICROMANAGED...YOU ARE EXPECTED TO MAKE 250 DIALS A DAY TO A LIST OF RANDOM SENIORS TO "PROVIDE THE LATEST MEDICARE UPDATES" THAT IS THE SCRIPT THE USE TO TRY AND SET 18 APPOINTMENTS PER WEEK! WHICH IS ABSURD..YOU'LL BE LUCKY IF U GET 10 PEOPLE TO MAKE AN ACTUAL APPOINTMENT AND ONLY 3 PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY BE THERE WHEN U SHOW UP!

IF YOU HAVE LOTS OF ENEGRY ANY MONEY TO BURN WHILE YOU WORK THERE THEN THIS IS THE JOB FOR YOU!! THERE ARE WAY BETTER MORE LEGIT FINANCIALLY STABLE COMPANIES OUT THERE IF YOUR LOOKING TO GET INTO THIS INNDUSTRY LIKE NYLIFE NORTHWESTERN MUTUAL METLIFE DONT WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THESE BOZOS!!

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Guest

Can people be this ignorant?? All these complaints on here is totally ridiculous!

Welcome to insurance business!! Leads will never be perfect anywhere or everyone would do this!! They don't rip people off, bankers like other companies, educates the clients, asks questions to find out about their needs, then recommends a product/solution!! The business is the same as being commission and working as mortgage broker, real estate agent...

Exact same, they sell something, they make money and there is tons of turnover in those industries too. I have been in insurance biz for almost 10 years and make an average of over 170k per year...

Very compliantly and suitable, wouldn't risk my license. So please please don't listen to failures that can't make it in this biz!!!!

Rudegal H

I tried getting my insurance liense to work for this company and stop everything when some one told me it not a good company to work for, he said his wife did it for months and spend more money than she makes, she is now working an hourly position for the company i work for.

Guest

I do well as an agent with this firm, and I am well regarded in my 2nd year with BCLIC. Of course some folks will not keep an appointment, but for the most part they are flaky/indecisive/noncommittal types.

So don't waste time on such prospects. Acknowledge and move on! My clients give me referral business that stays on the books and they know I am there for them.

I think the persons who post bad things about the career agent position just cannot figure out what they need to do to achieve success. Be dynamic and knowledgeable when presenting, and you will close the prospect without any need to revert to hard sell.

Some new agents are scared of success, and set themselves up for failure. I work hard, but I work smart.

Guest
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I'm actually currently going through the process of the training programs to understand their products and options with the life insurance, the medicare supplements, etc. I was wondering if you're still with the company and if you experienced any of the drastic complaints I've read here on the website.

I'm trying to remain confident that this could be a viable option for me to undertake, but I'm starting to get scared. Did you experience the drama some have written? If you left the company, did you get called and asked for the commission money back bc your policies through customers cancelled and they need money to overcome that?? That sounds like a reason to not try this bc this money would go towards my daily expenses, not just lying around collecting dust.

I'm already hearing from my family this is a scam, but the vibe I've gotten through the classes I've taken isnt that at all. I hope I'm choosing correctly.

Please, inform me of how bankers has worked for you, either positive or negative. You are the first person I've seen that has written something positive.

Guest
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I was thinking about becoming part of your company, but then I read the reviews. Three rejections out of four openings isn't good.

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John is in year 6 with a bankers and making a living. Sorry to have taken so long to reply, I hope that you succeed Char!

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Why, in your first sentence, as you speaking in third person? Very odd...

Guest
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*are you* (not as you)

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