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Alside Window - Alside Window Warranty a JOKE

  • by   Sep 02, 2010
  • Review #: 196863
CompanyAlside Window
Product / ServiceCasement Windows
Location Overland Park, Kansas
Category Installers
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I am a contractor that sold 5 twin alside casement windows in 2001.These windows have leaked water for years and I constantly caulked and they still continued to .

I tested the windows and the water came in under the window and that usually is not a window problem but a caulk problem. So we caulked more. It only leaked of course when there was a strong hard rain against the window. Maybe twice a year, but that is to many.

I decided to tear out the drywall around the window and test the windows. The water was coming in the center of the twin casements; this is called the mull. I ordered the windows factory mulled so obviously I would consider this to be a factory problem!. The homeowner wanted to file the complaint so I had the Alside come out to see the problem, take pictures, and get the warranty complaint going".

The rep agreed the problem was the center mull!. Leter came back to homeowner claim denied/. No phone number, no address and no on the leter!. So I called and talked to an engineer/.

He said it sounded like a mull problem so he sent me a new center mull strip and told me to take out the old strip, recaulk, and install the new strip they sent.. Gave the part to the window installer and he said no way he was going to be responsible for removing a factory installed part:.

Homeowner called the and they said claim denied, claim denied, claim denied. 3134aa0

 
 
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Former Alside Employee Former Alside Employee
Feb 16  from Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
To all the pissed off people presently reading this, I can explain all of the problems in one statement:

Over 75% of all the AMI 'Alside' employees, at least at the main (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio) location, are foreigners. Mainly "Mexican", or from some other spanish speaking country.

And to date, I still haven't figured out why that is. I don't know if the temporary hiring company "Select Staffing" that Alside uses, has an illegal worker human trafficking ring, or what is going on. But they keep hiring Mexicans and other foreigners, not locals.

They workers they get don't even try to build a quality window. They just push them out as fast as they can, regardless of the issues that keep plaguing customers. They'll show Fernando or MarĂ­a how to do something once or twice, then make them do that as fast as they can if they don't screw up too badly. The end result is a production line full of people who can't build a decent window, not to mention the fact that they aren't even trying to in the first place.


On a sidenote: (Yes, it really does bother me.)

They keep routinely hire foreigners, a lot of them come over on illegal visas. They'll use up their own legal visa time, go back to Mexico, and come back on a family member's visa, using that name for the hiring paperwork. (I have witnessed that firsthand on numerous occasions. But nothing has ever been done about it.)
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brooktrout brooktrout
Mar 16  from Hampstead, New Hampshire
I have been dealing and installing alside building products for over 35yrs and the guy's in the northeast are the best!!!
Have we ever had issues or problems?? *** ya!! Bad runs of glass bad extrusions,you name it we have had issues with it at one time or another. But I must say they have always and I do mean always stood behind there products and furnished replacements and also the labor to go with it.I had a major issue with a 16 window job just last week and not only are the replacements being made as we speak,and the originals are being sent back to the quality dept. in Ohio for inspection. They are also reimbursing me for time spent trying to fix the problem. As for your post of hiring foreigners, that is exactly what i thought!!! The overall quality since the new corporation purchased Alside a little over a year ago, has been way less than what there standards were just a couple of years ago.I have been personally doing a lot extra to the windows to make them right for the customer and up to my standard.I have just submitted pic's to my sales rep and after looking at the pic's he agreed with me.Keep in mind a lot of the issues that are existing are cosmetic and don't hinder the performance of the window. I have been calling what i have been doing finishing the factory's job,and i don't get paid to do it. In sumation I would like to emphsize the fact that that the supplier has replaced all and any faulty product and reimbursed me for labor as well. To me the
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Noside Noside
Nov 13, 2012 
Brenda, just keep fighting. You are right they will and they are very good at the run around. I am a contractor & I tried to talk to them for my customer & they ignored me as well as my customer. Anyway my customer wrote a 3 page letter to the President, all the VP's, the warranty department, the local branch managers, & everyone he could find who was of Authority. He chose 13 people to write to.(Only 1 letter was written & sent that same letter to 13 people) He sent the letters Certified Mail, Regular Mail, & proof of mailing. Each person got 3 letters. He spent $60 in postage. The head service guy was at his home within a week. My customer asked me to be there and my customer screamed at him for 4 straight hours. It was really bad. Alside ended up replacing all the windows but guess who got to put the windows in for free the second time? Me the contractor. Alside would not pay for labor. My customer told the service guy he was going to go to the local branch and follow an installer who had a bunch of windows to install to the home where they were going to install windows and tell his story to the homeowner. My customer explained to Alside that he was not going to contact a lawyer because a lawyer would charge $5000 to take the case and if he did win he would not get his legal fees back. He told the service guy he was never going to keep quiet until he got all new windows. He did get all new windows.
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X 11/13/12, NC X 11/13/12, NC
Nov 13, 2012 
Had 22 Alside Excalibur windows installed on 6/2004. Had an upper sash window seal fail this year. Filled out the on line form, took pictures of the window and sent it on 10/10 certified mail. Called the warranty department today (800-489-1144 option 2) and they stated that my window was shipped on 10/31. Just picked it up and installed it today. Only other problem I have had was with a window "weight" which they sent to me with no problems. If you get these windows save all of your paperwork (install date, installer info) and keep the labels on the window as you need these numbers.
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Steve Hampton NH Steve Hampton NH
Nov 12, 2012 
My father bought all new windows for his large cape cod home. He got the Alside Excalibur lowE argon windows. 17 out of 25 windows had seals that leaked and fogged up within a year. I had that happen in my own home...had no idea what it was until it happened to my fathers home. I thought my windows were just really dirty..turns out I have the same windows in my house! I got some replaced under warranty a couple of years ago...but more have fogged up due to bad seals between the panes of glass...I WOULD NEVER BUY ALSIDE IF I HAD THE CHOICE!!!!
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JG JG
Aug 30, 2012 
I had 11 Alside windows installed in my home 4 years ago and I have not had any problems with them.
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WTF WTF
Mar 25, 2012 
:x your an *** Ben. Seal failure only comes from poor crafstmanship not the install.
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Brenda Brenda
Jan 05, 2012 
In the Fall of 2010, we had many Alside window sets put in. When Spring came, we opened all but four of the windows 1/4 to 1/2 way. We never fully closed and locked the windows until late July/early August when the hurricane was due to come up the east coast. When we tried closing the casement windows they wouldn't close - they had sagged to such a point that even using a lot of force wouldn't get them to back into the frames. Initially, Alside indicated that the contractor was at fault however, the contractor had two experts look at several of the windows and stated to Alside that the windows were defectively made with at least some of the problem appearing to be that the glass inset was shimmed improperly. Giving Alside this information back in August and September & filling out a warranty claim form, we still don't have a written response from Alside nor do we have an explanation from Alside as to why these windows have failed.

Has anyone else had experience with Alside's casement windows including bow windows? I'm considering hiring a structural or civil engineer to look at the windows and report on their structural integrity which seems like something Alside should have done before they made these windows and certainly after they failed.

Has anyone pursued Alside legally for not honoring their casement window warranty?
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Mary Mary
Aug 30, 2011 
Had an Alside patio door installed in 1996 with lifetime warranty. Started getting moisture between panes and called Alside, they sent a form to fill out and wanted pictures. We filled out form sent pictures, no response. Called them, they would get back to me. This has been going on for 2 years!!! The last they told me was that I needed someone to come out and inspect the window and I would be responsible to pay someone to do this. Called the company they suggested and they wanted $125 to come out. Told them to forget it. I next sent a complaint to MN Atty Gen. Now the latest from Alstate is that their warranty only covers 50% and I have to pay the other half. Never in all my conversations with them have they ever told me that. They have always said that they would replace the door but that I was responsible for any additional materials needed and for the labor. Never any word about only covering 50%. They just seem to be very good at the run around. I even asked for them just to send me a check for the amount so I can buy my own door and not have to have one of theirs so I don't have to ever deal with them again. They told me that wasn't possible. My husband wants to just buy a door and be done with it, but to me it's the principal of it all. I feel that's what they are trying to do, make someone frustrated enough that they give up. Noone wants to be accountable anymore in this society. I can remember when " the customer was always right".
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Jack Jack
Aug 18, 2011 
Installation can be an issue. But how about their warranty service? I have been waiting for three months for a new lock for my window. The fact that it broke in the first place tells me the window is poor quality. Every time I call to ask where my new lock is, they said they sent it. THREE MONTHS AGO???? The fourth time I called they said they cancelled my order. They said they'd call me back when they figured out why that happened. I'm still waiting for a phone call back. Stay away from this company!
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Debbie D Debbie D
Jun 23, 2011 
I had Alside windows installed in my entire house about 10 years ago. Through the years, we had to have at least 6 windows replaced because of buildup inside the window due to a bad seal. They said I must have received a bad bunch since this should not have happened. I had no problem though, getting them replaced. Now, another window has the same problem. I was told they have a new procedure for handling warranty claims. I had to fill out paperwork and send photos which I did.it has been way over a month. Every time I call to check on the status, they say they will call me back. I have left at least 3 messages with the same woman and never a return call. One person even told me if the other woman would not call be back that day, she would. I am still waiting. I wish I had not purchased alside windows now.They can at least make a quick call telling me they are still looking into it.
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Unhappy Consumer Unhappy Consumer
Apr 26, 2011 
These windows are ***. The 60 year old Andersen windows they replaced are better than these. They are so noisy I need to sleep with ear plugs! We got all double hungs and the top window won't even stay up. When they aren't open they need to be locked so they stay in place. What a joke. We had a cheap Menards window in one of our windows which was replaced by the Alside and the Menards window did just as good a job. Never buy Alside
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Bob W. Bob W.
Apr 13, 2011 
Installation CAN be an issue, but like many other posters wrote, Alside windows are a joke (along with their "tech guys" they send out to diagnose and try to fix the problems AND their "New, Improved" warranty process). I made the mistake of having Alside windows installed 6 years ago by my carpenter when I built my own house. Problems from day 1 off Alside's delivery truck! About 8 out of 16 windows had grids falling out between the two panes of glass. Nice! All casement and awning styles have either cracked, frosted/iced up glass on inside of house and lowE failures. Almost every pane of glass has been replaced since initial install due to manufacturer's defects. I currently have two more that have lowE failures. Can't wait for the next "run-around" in trying to have Alside honor their warranty. P.S. In the approximately 10 times their tech. guys were out to correct/adjust the problems, the windows still have frost build-up near the bulb seals in the winter. Garbage!
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N N
Apr 10, 2011 
We had a bunch of these windows installed 2 years ago and 3 of them have a build-up between the panes due to bad seals. The rep said we had to drive up to the factory and pick up replacements and then pay them to come down to replace them. *** poor business ethics. *** poor quality control. The installation did not cause the windows to have bad seals.
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wholesaler wholesaler
Mar 28, 2011 
i've sold revere windows for over 10 years. they are the exact same window as alside. made by ami, in the same plant, by the same people. i would not have these windows in my own house. there is a reason that a 3050 only costs 60 dollars. I spend more time fixing the windows i sell, than i do selling them. this last year was the worst with the tax credit going on. lead times and quality went way down hill. its just now, 3 months later starting to improve. yes i am having a bad day because of these windows and im venting. They backordered over 50 windows this week but the truck had all of window-worlds orders on it. *** ami, silverline just picked up my business.
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Noside Noside
Mar 19, 2011 
You are right 99% are installation problems but not this time. And the people complaining here are the 1% that have been wronged by Alside not there contractor. You said rarely so your saying maybe 1% or less of your customers are not happy with Alside. That is who we are and maybe one of your thousands of customers is complaining in this forum. Your not perfect and don't try to give the impression we are the nuts of the world. Get over your perfect record and admit that maybe you or Alside could be wrong.
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Ben Hansen Pres. Claymark Home Ben Hansen Pres. Claymark Home
Mar 17, 2011 
As a professional remodeling contractor specializing in windows, doors, and siding I am amazed at the discussion here. We have installed thousands of Alside units over the years and the stoies here would be hilarious if I didn't know there was an upset homeowner on the end of them. IT IS THE INSTALLATION OF THE UNITS THAT CAUSES 99% of problems. And a center mull can leak easily if it was installed off level, plumb, square, or was pulled by improper nailing or thru jam screwing. Hire a better contractor. If Alside units were this bad I would be out of business, and we have been in business for 30 years and 90% of our business comes from customer referrals. We rarely have problems with Alside units and when we do they are the fastest and best service we have ever had solving warranty issues.
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Julie Julie
Mar 07, 2011 
Installation CAN be an issue, but Alside windows are a joke. In my rental properties I made the mistake of using Alside windows installed by reputable companies and time and again they have cracked, leaked water and become foggy. If you choose to use Alside you will not even get what you pay for because they will not even honor their warranties. This fiasco has cost me thousands.
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Kat Kat
Feb 22, 2011 
I had Alside windows installed about seven years ago. One window cracked on its own. It has been over a year and Alside has not replaced it. Another window seal is failing. I can see the curtains moving in and out when the wind blows!

The company that took over for the installer told me about the weep hole leak mentioned above. I think it's bogus. This window is leaking right through the frame.

These windows aren't lasting, and Alside's so-called "life time warranty" is total BS!
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noside noside
Dec 15, 2010 
Alside sent there technician from Ohio down here to Kansas and we proved to him that the window is pure ***. The homeowner has casements and the weatherstripping is installed behind the lock instead of in front of it and because of this the window leaks water at the lock. Now we are waiting for the report to come back. You know the technician has to give it to the legal department who has to discuss with the warranty department who has to discuss it with the engineering department and on and and on like all big companies do. They *** on there customenrs instead of doing the right thing... They spend thousands of dollars to figure out how to not pay because they think well if we pay him we will have to pay everyone who got windows during that time. The window they built in 2001 they stopped building. Wonder why...
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