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Nouveau Riche - Renatus

Company Nouveau Riche
Product / Service Real Estate Education
Location Chicago, Illinois
Category Real Estate
Views 913
Monetary Loss

This used to be Nouveau Riche.I think they changed it because the posse was closing in.

This "school" is a major ripoff...they suck you in with huge costs for classes only to find out YOU NEED TO BUY MORE CLASSES...I bought the basic Essentials course and while it has a lot of info most of it can be found in a library for free....some of the videos run well and some are not so good......it's all about MLM and you should stay away. Even after buying in at basic level the "Founders" ignore you unless you continue to buy more or bring other suckers in. Some students do well in R.E. but considering the thousands they drag through the mill it is probably equal to the general population % as a whole.

Many of the instructors are successful but you find they were so before they became involved with Renatus.RUN AWAY! 2f0f03b

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Feb 09 
I went to a rich dad seminar about one year ago. They wanted almost 65k for 8 online classes. No local group or national network to latch yourself on to...just an 800 number for questions. No coaching unless you spend thousands more.. upsell, upsell, upsell...Renatus has coaching and offices nationwide of real people learning and helping each other. Spending 2-15k on your education is a drop in the bucket compared to college, and you can have that money back with your first deal which you can't do with college. I understand this is not for everyone, but that does not make it a scam. You will never get wealthy from a 9-5 job and you will be building other people's dreams, not your own....and for the person who said employees are posting positive comments, Renatus does not have employees, it has satisfied customers. They pay people for sharing the opportunity, not to make posts on blogs like this.
Reply to livingthedream

Feb 09  from Miami, Florida
Renatus is not MLM at all. You are purchasing a product, which is education. You can build a sales team inf you are interested in participating in the marketing, you are not required too. There is no auto ship or upsell. There is a series of classes that start with beginning, just like college, and move you up. You do not have to take them all. MLM's do not pay 50% average on commission. The compensation was derived from the insurance industry. Also, many managers earn commission off their sales team based on performance. People really need to understand what they are talking about first. This is not for everyone. If you take the classes and do the work, you will succeed. If not, you are your own worst enemy, and it has nothing to do with the company.
Reply to xxx

Jan 15 
DemoGod...really? THAT'S your name on here? That in itself causes me to question your integrity in the first place.
So really, how much time and EFFORT did you put into this to really make it work? And how much time and EFFORT did you put into ANY school before you started seeing any income from it?
Reply to Jules62

Oct 10, 2013  from Salt Lake City, Utah
I can see it is an MLM. I found this page useful. Thanks for helping me avoid MLM's which are based on greed and cost more than they are worth for 90% or more of those who join. Research Multi Level Marketing (MLM) online and see for yourself. Just sayin'... Have a good day.
Reply to Mike

Jul 16, 2013  from Los Angeles, California
I got rip by a so call investor and put $2000 dollars, to learn how to become one... instead was told it was for my education, they lied and make me believe that I was going to get my money back plus more.. in the end the ones that kept my money were the one that passed himself as an investor and the company ... I got nothing in return.. And to boot they kept all my money for nothing in return... Bad people there... :(
Reply to genel

Jul 11, 2013  from Oak Creek, Wisconsin
Ok just to fill in the people who may see these comments; the positive comments you see people giving renatus are renatus employees.

They pay people to give positive reviews. Renatus is just a MLM marketing scam. They only way you make money is by marketing the "school" to you friends and family. When you do this you get half the cost for the classes they take. The school is usually around 15k to attend. That's means you get 7.5k for every sucker(usually your friends and family) you dupe.

After awile everyone who knows you hates you because you stole their money.

Renatus is not a school. It a marketing job. The only problem is that you market a school that doesn't exist. And the school itself it just a collection of google searches on real estate investments.

Absolute total scam.
Reply to Didn't fool me renatus

Jul 08, 2013  from Chicago, Illinois
You say the education did not work, it sucked.......why don' you ask yourself who sucked, who didn't work? The education is there to be used. It is up to you to apply it and make it work. So I have the feeling You sucked because you did not work. In life nothing is Free or effortless so get off your butt and use it and actually make something positive with it. Have the courage to change your LIFE like many others I personally know. It has worked for thousands of people.... It is an awesome opportunity. Thanks Bob for creating such a great opportunity.
Reply to Driven10

Apr 15, 2013  from Phoenix, Arizona
In researching Renatus for my husband and myself and encountering reviews such as this, it occurs to me that so often negative reviews themselves are written by people who express no class in their communications, often using vulgarity, slang, abbreviations or just misspelling out of carelessness. This speaks for itself of the reviewer. One gets what one puts into something.
Reply to Anonymous

Sep 19, 2012 
The opportunity that Renatus offers is great for those who are willing to take action and not allow their ego to be bigger than their wallet. Like any occupation, real estate investing takes knowledge and action. As with many professions, real estate requires networking whether or not you choose to utilize the earning opportunity or just come into this wonderful group for the education.
Reply to Susan in Florida

Aug 22, 2012 
Evaluation of ones life choices and results of today reflect their current view of responsibility for their actions. Renatus is a tool to assist in the personal growth for one to create financial wealth successfully as determined by their own definition, like any tool the person using it is the determining factor as to its success. A car is a tool, if not used for the purpose intended or in they method it was intended the results.may not be desirable. The system is proven, results speak for themselves.
Reply to student

Aug 22, 2012 
Evaluation of ones life choices and results of today reflect their current view of responsibility for their actions. Renatus is a tool to assist in the personal growth for one to create financial wealth successfully as determined by their own definition, like any tool the person using it is the determining factor as to its success. A car is a tool, if not used for the purpose intended or in they method it was intended the results.may not be desirable. The system is proven, results speak for themselves.
Reply to student

May 26, 2012 
I too signed up for the essentials course and found the information to be overwhelmingly relevant and practical. I have been a realestate investor for twenty five years and so I knew most of what I heard and it ligned up with my own experience. I also learned a few things that made the $$ totally worth it. I am signing up for the next level also. I too was put off by the MLM approach at first but this is not an Amway meeting. They don't pressure you AT ALL. I just take what I need for my own situation. In my opinion I have received great value, after all one deal can pay for the entire full blown package with all the options. Bottom line, the information is sound and gets a person in the door. What you do with the information, like everything else in life, is up to you.
Reply to Craig

Feb 22, 2012 
I am a former student of Nouveau Riche and a current member of the Renatus Real Estate Investor Community.

I actually paid $21,500 for my Nouveau Riche real estate investment education in 2006 when I was looking for something to help me make more money. My industry was starting to see challenges with the downturn in the economy and I knew that I had to find something or I would be in the same boat as millions of other Americans losing my job, even potentially losing my house.

My experience of the education that I purchased was absolutely fantastic. Perhaps I am different than most, I actually took my education very seriously and attended each and every class, attended the real estate coaching calls, attended the local real estate workshops they offered, and took every opportunity to learn as much as I could about real estate investing. My very first real estate deal was done within my first year of starting my education and my profit was substantially more than my entire education cost. My life today is completely different because of this fantastic education and I am forever grateful for my purchase. This education has allowed me to earn more money in the past 5 years than in my entire life combined.

My experience with every single person that had some type of complaint was usually they were just not willing to do what it takes to be successful. Nouveau Riche was a fantastic company with first-class education that taught many
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Reply to Realestateguy

May 03, 2013  from Mount Pleasant, South Carolina
you are a retard for paying that much
Reply to rich

Aug 21, 2013  from Orlando, Florida
The only thing retarded is the sick car I drive because I have made 46k this month alone. Renatus taught me how to make this $.
Reply to Real Estate Investor

Sep 02, 2013  from Troy, North Carolina
Rich is rude. Education has no price.....
Reply to randaok

Mar 03  from Ashland, Oregon
Thanks, Realestateguy, for your lucid and erudite comment.
I have been scouring the internet for any sign that Renatus might be a scam. I have a very sensitive conscience and would feel extremely guilty if I unintentionally led someone in to a scam. With a few, rather rude and badly written, exceptions I haven't been able to find any examples of a person being "ripped off" by Renatus. To the contrary, I have found several statements from students who feel they got a valuable education from the school.
I just wanted to let you know know that, after all my searching, your well written, considerate, compassionate comment has convinced me to move forward and try it. At $250 a class, text included, it's a good deal cheaper than any of my college courses.
Again, thank you!!
Reply to mrgrunthor

Feb 21, 2012 
I would like to know. What is a rip off? All schools charge money. How much does a college ducation cost?15k,30k and did you get a job and make money with it or did you decide to go back to school and pay more for more classes? The renatus is questionable. But did you apply what you learned? Did you do all the schooling? Or did you just give up and why? I want to join there group but can't find any solid eveidence of why not too join except people saying its a rip off. Paying a dollar for a bottle of water is the same as paying 32 bucks for a gallon of water. I thought a gallon of gas was hi! I am using a metaphor.
Reply to Curious

Feb 20, 2012 
I've spent countless hours researching this company and have been in contact with current students. Renatus has a clean record and an excellent reputation for delivering value. Yours is the first negative experience I have encountered. I would love to have a conversation with you to dig a little deeper as to why your experience has been different.
Reply to Consumer advocate

Feb 20, 2012 
Saying Renatus used to be Nouveau Riche is like saying that Microsoft used to be Apple. It just doesn't make sense when you know the truth.

Hard to believe the rest of what you say if you aren't being truthful with the basics.
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